| Title: | DECWINDOWS 26-JAN-89 to 29-NOV-90 |
| Notice: | See 1639.0 for VMS V5.3 kit; 2043.0 for 5.4 IFT kit |
| Moderator: | STAR::VATNE |
| Created: | Mon Oct 30 1989 |
| Last Modified: | Mon Dec 31 1990 |
| Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
| Number of topics: | 3726 |
| Total number of notes: | 19516 |
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| d | i | g | i | t | a | l | INTEROFFICE MEMO
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To: WSBASELEVEL Date: 19 September 1989
From: Vince Orgovan
Paul Steeves
Dept: VMS Eng & Prod Mgmt
Loc/Mail Stop: ZK03-4/W23
Enet: STAR::ORGOVAN,STAR::STEEVES
Ext: 381-1401
VMS DECwindows V2 external field test 2 (EFT2) is now available. It is
packaged with the external field test of VMS V5.3. To report problems
with the DECwindows portion of this software, please use the DECWINDOWS-IFT
QAR database on TRIFID.
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| d | i | g | i | t | a | l | INTEROFFICE MEMO
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To: Distribution Date: 19 September 1989
From: Ken Stumpf
Dept: VMS Engineering
Loc/Mail Stop: ZK03-4/T61
Enet: STAR::STUMPF
Ext: 381-1048
**** NOTE: Network kits are FOR INTERNAL USE ONLY!!!! *****
The field test version V5.3 is available at all VMS distribution
sites. This kit will upgrade on any V5.* (FT or SSB version) and will
install from standalone backup. The current release notes and installation
guide will be in the same directory as the kit.
To report problems with the software, use the V53-FT database which been set
up on TRIFID.
Once you have completed an installation or upgrade, please reply to
Note 246 in VAXWRK::VMS_FIELD_TESTS. Be sure to describe your system/cluster
configuration as well as the media used to perform the installation.
The files in the FT kit directory are:
Directory VMSKIT::SYS$KITS:[VMS053]
VMS053.A;1 1936
VMS053.B;1 33776
VMS053.C;1 32032
VMS053.D;1 9952
X53-461_TO_T53-462MUP053.A;1
20502
DECW053.C;2 12576
DECW053.D;2 4704
DECW053.E;2 2976
DECW053.F;2 3616
DECW053.G;2 28016
DECW_DESKTOP_APPS_V53FT.PS;1
12585
DECW_USERS_GUIDE_V53FT.POST;1
4265
NEWFEATURES_V53FT.DECW$BOOK;1
1856
NEWFEATURES_V53FT.DECW$BOOKSHELF;2
1
NEWFEATURES_V53FT.LN03;1
2309
NEWFEATURES_V53FT.PS;1
2668
RELEASE_NOTES_V53FT.DECW$BOOK;1
397
RELEASE_NOTES_V53FT.DECW$BOOKSHELF;2
1
RELEASE_NOTES_V53FT.LN03;1
823
RELEASE_NOTES_V53FT.POST;1
727
UPGRADE_INSTALL_V53FT.LN03;1
1436
UPGRADE_INSTALL_V53FT.PS;1
1459
Total of 22 files, 178613 blocks.
Area
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2 |Node::dev: SQM::SYS$KITS:<VMS053>
|Location: ZKO - Nashua, NH
|Contact: Brian SQM::Breton
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2 |Node::dev: ORPHAN::KITS:<VMS053>
|Location: ZKO2 - Nashua, NH
|Contact: Paul PSW::Winalski
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3 |Node::dev: ATSE::SYS$KITS:
|Location: MKO1 - Merrimack, NH
|Contact: Kevin ATSE::Cote
|DFS access point:
|.Eng.LES.MSD.ATSE.kits
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4 |Node::dev: MIVC::KITS_DISK:<VMS053>
|Location: LKG - Littleton, MA
|Contact: Dave Klinkhamer (DELNI::KLINK)
|DFS access point:
|.Eng.NaC.Nets.kits_disk
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4 |Node::dev: LIOTH""::SYS$KITS:<VMS053>
|Location: LKG - Littleton, MA
|Contact: Kevin SMAUG::Murphy
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7 |Node::dev: SCHOOL::SYS$KITS:<VMS053>
|Location: MRO1 - Marlboro, MA
|Contact: Marc HPSRAD::Dufresne
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10 |Node::dev: TENAYA::SYS$KITS:<VMS053>
| MADRE::SYS$KITS:<VMS053>
| LAMINA::SYS$KITS:<VMS053>
|Location: UCO - Palo Alto, CA
|Contact: Al WSE175::Sera, or
| DECWSE::HW-SYSMGR
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11 |Node::dev: CONCRT::SYS$KITS:<VMS053>
|Location: PDM1 - Marlboro, MA
|Contact: Jim CONCRT::Kehoe
|DFS access point:
|.Eng.Mktg.CSG.ISSE_1.CONCRT_AP.kits
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15 |Node::dev: CABOOS::SYS$KITS:
|Location: APO1 - Andover, MA
|Contact: Steve CABOOS::Wride
|DFS access point:
|.Mfg.SCO.APO_CR.VMSkits
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16 |Node::dev: DLOACT""::SYS$KITS:<VMS053>
|Location: SCA - Dallas (Tuna), TX
|Contact: John DLOACT::Hildebrand
|DFS access point:
|.Sale_Serv.US.SCA.ACT.kits
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17 |Node::dev: MILK""::SYS$KITS:<VMS053>
|Location: BTO - Burlington, VT
|Contact: TALK::W_Piper
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18 |Node::dev: MPGS::SYS$KITS:<VMS053>
|Location: SHR - Shrewsbury, MA
|Contact: MPGS::Harley (Privitera)
|DFS access point:
|.Eng.Stor_Sys.SHRISG.MPGS_Sys$kits
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21 |Node::dev: MUDDIN::VMS$KITS:<VMS053>
|Location: MRO4 - Marlboro, MA
|Contact: Kevin MUDDIN::Meany
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24 |Node::dev: FDCV14::SYS$KITS:<VMS053>
|Location: PKO - Maynard, MA
|Contact: Glenn URSA::Doten
|DFS access point:
|.Sale_Serv.US.USIS.TIS.VMS$kits
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25 |Node::dev: MVBLAB::SYS$KITS:<VMS053>
|Location: MLO - Maynard, MA (Mill)
|Contact: Jon DIODE::Crowell
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26 |Node::dev: ESRAD::VMS$KITS:<VMS053>
|Location: FPO - Burlington, MA
|Contact: Dave ESRAD::Dugal
|DFS access point:
|.Sale_Serv.Edu.RaD.VMS$kits
|NOTE: access limited to SYSTEM account
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27 |Node::dev: MPGS::SYS$KITS:<VMS053>
|Location: SHR - Shrewsbury, MA
|Contact: MPGS::Harley (Privitera)
|DFS access point:
|.Eng.Stor_Sys.SHRISG.MPGS_Sys$kits
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28 |Node::dev: NOETIC""::SYS$KITS:<VMS053>
|Location: CXO - Colorado Springs, CO
|Contact: Liesl NOETIC::Kolbe
|DFS access point:
|.Sale_Serv.US.CSC_Colorado.ISG.kit
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30 |Node::dev: TRILGY::SYS$KITS:
|Location: WRO1 - Santa Clara, CA
|Contact: Frank TRILGY::Flonnoy
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31 |Node::dev: BM1GSG::
|Location: MK02 - Merrimack, NH
|Contact: Ira BM1GSG::Grollman
|Available by mail back. To use, send
|To: BM1GSG::VMS053
|Subj: doesn't matter
|first line of message to contain destination as node::device:[directory]
|which must have world write access or allow BM1GSG::kitname proxy access.
|To obtain kit directory, send mail to BM1GSG::DISTRIBUTE
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32 |Node::dev: SICVAX::SYS$KITS:<VMS053>
|Location: NYO - New York, NY
|Contact: Patrick SDSVAX::Sweeney
|DFS access point:
|.Sale_serv.US.NYA.SWS.SICVAX_D1
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36 |Node::dev: UFP::SYS$KITS:<VMS053>
|Location: DCO - Washington, DC
|Contact: Rick UFP::Murphy
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37 |Node::dev: MILKWY::SYS$KITS:<VMS053>
|Location: LMO2 - Marlboro, MA
|Contact: Jerry MILKWY::Parish
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37 |Node::dev: MIDEVL::KIT$DISK:<VMS.FT053>
|Location: DLB5 - Marlboro, MA
|Contact: Mark ISTG::OToole
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41,|Node::dev: MARVIN::SYS$KITS:<VMS053>
42,|Location: REO2 - Reading UK
44 |Contact: Trevor MARVIN::Warwick
|DFS access point:
|.Eng.NaC.WACE.MARVIN_DFS.disk$kits
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45 |Node::dev: MGRITA""::SYS$KITS:<VMS053>
|Location: ACTnet - Dallas (Tuna), TX
|Contact: John DLOACT::Hildebrand
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48 |Node::dev: GVPROD""::SYS$KITS:<VMS053>
|Location: GEO - Geneva, Switzerland
|Contact: Michel SHIRE::MSteiner
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49 |Node::dev: DCC::SYS$KITS:<VMS.V53>
|Location: RTO - Munich, W. Germany
|Contact: Dennis DCC::Hagarty
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50 |Node::dev: KIPPIS"VMSKITS"::SYS$KITS:<VMS053>
|Location: FNO - Helsinki, Finland
|Contact: Pekka KIPPIS::Peura
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51 |Node::dev: VISA::SYS$KITS:<VMS053>
|Location: VBE - Valbonne, France
|Contact: Dave VISA::Monahan
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56 |Node::dev: STOW::SYS$KITS:
|Location: OGO - Stow, MA
|Contact: Rick OGOMTS::LaFlamme
|NOTE: access limited to proxy accounts
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58 |Node::dev: JRDV04::VMS$KITS:<VMS053>
|Location: EWB - Tokyo, Japan
|Contact: Takehumi JRDV04::Kakimoto
|DFS access point:
|.Eng.SSG.ABS.JRD.disks.VMS$kits
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59 |Node::dev: GIDDAY::SYS$KITS:<VMS.V053>
|Location: STL 3/5 - Sydney, Australia
|Contact: Brian GIDDAY::Sommerville
|DFS access point:
|.Sale_Serv.GIA.SPR.CSC.DFS.kits
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| T.R | Title | User | Personal Name | Date | Lines |
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| 1470.1 | EPIK::WOLFE | Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious | Wed Sep 20 1989 17:08 | 6 | |
Can I simply install the DECwindows bits (or decw$tailor) onto a VMS
5.2 or 5.2-1 system? i.e. must I be running the 5.3 ft stuff as
well....
Pete
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| 1470.2 | Can't tailor on 5.3 DW on 5.2 VMS | STAR::ORGOVAN | Vince Orgovan | Wed Sep 20 1989 17:17 | 2 |
Sorry, you cannot use V5.2 decw$tailor to install the V5.3 DECwindows. | |||||
| 1470.3 | Where are the COMPLETE kits for V2.0 FT? | TIZER::IRENE | Thu Sep 21 1989 09:14 | 15 | |
I am about to install DECimage FT2 but according to the IMAGING
Notes conference I need DECwindows V2.0 FT, "the complete kit...
savesets .a through .h ".
Can anyone tell me where I can find these kits or will the
savesets .c through .g mentioned in note 1470.0 be sufficient?
Thanks
Irene
ETG AYR
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| 1470.4 | QUARK::LIONEL | Free advice is worth every cent | Thu Sep 21 1989 09:35 | 9 | |
The comment in IMAGING was undoubtedly refering to IFT1 that was
packaged separately from VMS. For FT2, DECwindows is included with
the VMS kit the way it will be seen by customers.
I don't know what requirements DECimage has from the VMS/DECwindows
kit.
Steve
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| 1470.5 | Area 55 also has VMS T5.3 save sets... | REFINE::PORTANTE | Thu Sep 21 1989 14:25 | 31 | |
YO!
Some how we keep getting left out. We have the kits.
Here is the info:
Node: REFINE
Location: DSG, Westford, MA
Kit locations: OPER$KITS:[VMS053]
[VMS0521]
[VMS052]
DFS entry point: .ENG.LES.DSG.TASTE.OPER$KITS
Contact: REFINE::KIT_MANAGER
I would prefer the use of DFS since it is faster and less a drain on
our resources. FTSV is also a help. Typical DCL commands:
COPY REFINE::OPER$KITS:[VMS053]*.* []/LOG ! Straight network copy
or
COPY OPER$KITS:[VMS053]*.* []/LOG ! DFS entry point
or
FTSV COPY REFINE::OPER$KITS:[VMS053]*.* []/LOG ! FTSV network copy
or
FTSV COPY OPER$KITS:[VMS053]*.* []/LOG ! FTSV w/ DFS entry point
Hope this helps!
REFINE::KIT_MANAGER
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| 1470.6 | How to enter QAR please. | DELNI::MHARRIS | Netwrk Integ'n Projects | Tue Sep 26 1989 12:52 | 7 |
How do I enter a QAR on TRIFID? Username of "QAR" doesn't seem to
work...
?
M
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| 1470.7 | STAR::MFOLEY | Rebel without a Clue | Tue Sep 26 1989 14:08 | 7 | |
Username: QAR_INTERNAL Password: QAR mike | |||||
| 1470.8 | I vote for a notes user license. | VINO::WITHROW | Mass. recall petitions available here! | Mon Oct 02 1989 14:13 | 6 |
A dir/title=qar would have yielded you at least the following: 985.0 IND::WATSON 20-JUN-1989 1 How to submit a QAR? And you could also have done a dir/key=qar.... | |||||
| 1470.9 | ENOTES next time | DELNI::MHARRIS | Netwrk Integ'n Projects | Mon Oct 02 1989 20:26 | 7 |
Sorry, but during business hours, the link tends to be REALLY
slow sometimes.
I will try using ENOTES next time to do it in batch.
M
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| 1470.10 | Customers and external FT kits | YAWNY::MARTIN | MARTIN | Mon Oct 16 1989 13:50 | 11 |
A customer benchmark request came in for DECwindows FT v2.0 ( VMS053 ), can we support it at this time? Would I need to have a non-disclosure signed? Also, would anyone know if VMS053/DECW053 is compatible with DECwrite v1.0? Thank you. | |||||
| 1470.11 | STAR::ORGOVAN | Vince Orgovan | Mon Oct 16 1989 22:14 | 6 | |
I suggest you discuss this with VMS DECwindows product management.
Contact Paul Steeves at STAR::STEEVES.
And yes, DECwrite V1.0 will run with VMS V5.3 and the version of
DECwindows it contains.
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| 1470.12 | It works here! | MS3100::SCHELL | Mark Schell, SWS, Carolinas District, 367-4040 | Mon Oct 16 1989 22:42 | 9 |
> >Also, would anyone know if VMS053/DECW053 is compatible with >DECwrite v1.0? > DECwrite v1.0 is know to run and work under the current FT of VMS 5.3. AS for full support, I think you'd need to ask the product manager of DECwrite... Mark | |||||
| 1470.13 | can it be installed seperately | SALEM::COVIELLO | Wed Oct 18 1989 16:38 | 5 | |
Can I install DECW053 without VMS053?
thanks
Paul
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| 1470.14 | STAR::MFOLEY | Rebel without a Clue | Wed Oct 18 1989 23:20 | 6 | |
No.
mike
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| 1470.15 | Don't think so... | MS3100::SCHELL | Mark Schell, SWS, Carolinas District, 367-4040 | Thu Oct 19 1989 00:34 | 11 |
> -< can it be installed seperately >- > > Can I install DECW053 without VMS053? > > Paul I don't think so, because the base system files supporting DEC053 are in the VMS savesets. You have to install all of it to make it work. Mark | |||||
| 1470.16 | Would this work? | RIPPLE::FARLEE_KE | Insufficient Virtual...um...er... | Thu Oct 19 1989 15:36 | 6 |
What about using DECW$TAILOR.COM to tailor the decwindows files on to the system? (if necessary you could tailor decwindows off first, then tailor the DW053 files on). Comments? | |||||
| 1470.17 | I don't know how but if it will work | SALEM::COVIELLO | Thu Oct 19 1989 16:24 | 4 | |
I'll try anything
PAul
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| 1470.18 | LESLIE::LESLIE | Andy ��� Leslie | Thu Oct 19 1989 19:17 | 6 | |
NO.
Some of the files are shipped with VMS.
If you'll try anything, upgrade!!!
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| 1470.19 | VMS52 upgrade with DECwindows later. | SERVER::SYSTEM | Fri Oct 20 1989 16:26 | 14 | |
Speaking of upgrading...I did upgrade to VMS052 and the procedure
told me that I can install DECW052 later on if I desired. Which I
did.
Next day:
Now when I try to use VMSINSTALL it searchs for
the DECW052.A saveset which (ofcourse) is not there.
I alos tried using DECW052.C explicitely with the VMSINSTAL
proc - no dice.
Have I missed something here ?
Mumble..mumble...
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| 1470.20 | DECW$TAILOR.EXE, then turn it ON | DELNI::MHARRIS | Netwrk Integ'n Projects | Fri Oct 20 1989 16:30 | 2 |
Use DECW$TAILOR.EXE and turn it ON... | |||||
| 1470.21 | DECW$TAILOR.EXE WORKS LIKE Z..CHARM. | SERVER::SYSTEM | Mon Oct 23 1989 15:23 | 4 | |
Thank you sir (reply in .20) you are a gentlemen, scholar, and RIGHT !!!:)
DECW$TAILOR.EXE away.............unconfused.
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| 1470.22 | a trial and tribulation of upgrading...beware | VAXUUM::PELTZ | Get used to it... | Tue Oct 24 1989 12:24 | 21 |
Speaking of upgrading I did upgrade to VMS T5.3 and DECwindows V2 a few weeks ago...I meant to tell somebody about this but I forgot until just now. I put all the VMS053 savesets on one of my disk in: dua1:[000000] and I put the DECW053 savesets in sys$update WHAT A MISTAKE! When the installation went to look for the decwindows savesets it wouldn't allow me to specify anything but a disk name, and expected the DECW053 files to be on that disk in the [000000] directory! I then couldn't install DECwindows until after the upgrade, and then I had to DECW$TAILOR the new decwindows onto my system...talk about being a pain in the neck! I sure would have been nice if this little restriction regarding the location of savesets on the disks were documented. If they are, then they aren't in the installation guide. Just thought you all would like to know. Chris | |||||
| 1470.23 | I think it is documented but I am not sure | TOOK::RASPUZZI | Michael Raspuzzi - LAT/VMS Engineering | Tue Oct 24 1989 22:10 | 10 |
I am not 100% sure, but I thought some sort of System Manager's
documentation mentions that when doing a VMS upgrade, the kit must be
in ddxu:[000000] (where ddxu is your favorite disk for doing upgrades).
Since DECW053.% is part of the VMS kit, it should follow that it be in
the same directory as VMS053.%. Of course, I could have been downing a
few wine coolers when I thought I read this... :-)
Mike
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| 1470.24 | Here's what happened to me? | INFACT::NORTHERN | Looking for a good ride... | Wed Oct 25 1989 11:25 | 10 |
Gotta be in the [000000] dir.
The install does allow for "multi-volume" kits, so you could have your
DECW savesets on the [000000] of another disk if you wanted.
(During my install, it came back at the DECW install part and re-asked
me for what disk my DECW media was on, so I think you would be cool.)
Lou "The Voice of Experience?" Northern
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