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Conference bulova::decw_jan-89_to_nov-90

Title:	DECWINDOWS 26-JAN-89 to 29-NOV-90
Notice:	See 1639.0 for VMS V5.3 kit; 2043.0 for 5.4 IFT kit
Moderator:	STAR::VATNE

Created:	Mon Oct 30 1989
Last Modified:	Mon Dec 31 1990
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	3726
Total number of notes:	19516

1450.0. "talent request" by LAIDBK::SCHNEIDER () Fri Sep 15 1989 16:13

    I conferred with the moderator of this conference before posting
    this because this is somewhat of a gray area.  The field is desperately
    short of delivery people to help software vendors convert applications
    from other windoing systems to X.  Normally it would not be kosher
    to request such help in a developers conference but in light of the
    all hands on DEC program, I thought it might be appropriate to see
    if there were any people out there who where proficient (or on
    an learning curve) for programming in X and DECWindows.  This is
    somewhat of a back door approach to the all hands on DEC program.
    What would happen is we can discuss the projects off line and if
    someone is interested we can then (assuming their manager approves)
    sign them up for all hands on DEC and fly them out to (in this case
    southern California) the customer site.  These stays would be 'all
    expenses' paid and would last usually from 2 to 8 weeks depending
    on the job.  This would also be a good opportunity to get some input
    on how our customers are using these products as well as brush up
    on your tan  :-).  Please contact me if you might have some time
    to spare on a project like this.  Currently we have one port in
    Fortran and one in C....   
    
    thanks
    
    Greg Schneider  SWA Volume District,  Costa Mesa California
    (714) 850 7720

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
1450.1		HOTSHT::HABERLAND		`Fri Sep 15 1989 17:14`	13
	What you have to do is contact your local SWS office to see if they have the expertise. Otherwise, there is an organization that does Consulting to help customers port their applications or create new applications. This group only does short term (under 6 months) and usually sends one person to the customer site for a week. Find out what they are trying to do and get them started, then go back to the office and assist on the telephone. Additional visits are usually once a month, every customer is different. For more information, send me mail or call me at DTN 264-2797. Dave Haberland SWS/E Graphics and DECwindows Support
1450.2		LNGBCH::SCHNEIDER	pluto	`Fri Sep 22 1989 16:02`	12
	Dave, The problem that I'm having is that we need someone on site continuously for two months to help transfer technology and to be sure the customer's needs are met on and on-going basis. If I am correct your group only provides for one week a month of on site support with the rest of the work being done remotely. Can you provide full time on site people? Thanks Greg
1450.3		HOTSHT::HABERLAND		`Mon Sep 25 1989 11:03`	12
	Greg, Unfortunately not. There is something called a SWS Residence that works on-site for periods of time, but I don't have any idea how and where to find out about these people. What we try and do is work with the local SWS person and the customer, so the SWS person ends up being a carrier, but we also try to get them involved for knowledge transfer reasons. If I find any info on a group that can help for periods of time I'll let you know. Good Luck, Dave
1450.4	different but the same ?!?	GSRC::WEST	Variables don't, Constants aren't	`Mon Sep 25 1989 12:51`	20
	I didn't realize there were any differences with SWS. The SWS organization that I'm with here in Colorado Springs do just about everything. We do a little consulting and we do residencies (on site consulting, etc). Our residencies can be anywhere from one day to the end of a customer project. I am currently a resident on a project. I have been on residency for over 2 and a half years now. Now there is a Pre-Sales/Sales Support side of SWS. They primarily do demos, talk to customers about our products to see if they will meet the customers needs, consulting, etc. The people who do this are usually very short term. It's like they do the initial work and then its people like me who go in for the long term. We do sometimes work together. Either one of these types of people should be to either help you directly or a least point you to those who can. -=> Jim <=-
1450.5		SDSVAX::SWEENEY	I was focused when focus wasnt cool	`Mon Sep 25 1989 13:11`	10
	Note 1275 discusses the general question of what services Digital offers to customers in a DECwindows context. In the specific case in .0, the usual steps are for the account manager to contact the local Software Services managers. If the local SWS managers decline to act on an opportunity, then a general solicitation in a VAX Notes conference might offer some psychic relief but doesn't promise results.