Conference bulova::decw_jan-89_to_nov-90

Is there a new kit?  I tried copying the .0 one and get "Invalid login at..."
Same when I try to mail to Mr. Saunders.  What about .1's issue?

Thanks

Chad

I've just got back in to the office, and all our machines have been upgraded to
X5.3, I suspect that has something to do with why we are no longer accessable on
the net, I'll get that fixed ASAP. 

On .1, thats a new one on me, I have just unpacked the kit in .0, and 
the kitinstal in it at my node is **definatly** the Banner kit install, 
and I have just installed the kit, and all went perfectly. I'm affraid I
am completely at a loss as to how you managed to find an SVN kitinstal.com. 
Anybody else who managed to get at the kit seen this problem?

One peice of bad news, the NI monitor seems to be out again on X5.3, so it 
looks like the kit in .0 is only any good for V5.2 systems, if you are 
interested in watching you NI. 

Jim

    Yeah, I noticed the NI stuff.
    
    BTW it may be the CAPTIVE versus RESTRICTED flag problem thats causing
    the lack of access.
    
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I've noticed that the PE window never comes up on startup.  I always have to 
enable it explicitly.  This is when the kit is installed on X5.3, but not in
V5.2 or the V5.2-1 update.

Wook

    re: .1
    Looks like cockpit error on my part.  I extracted the installation
    procedure out (as I often do) to see what it would do before using
    it.  But it got tucked under another KITINSTAL (SVN) I had left from
    before and confused me.  Sorry for the false alram...

Re .5, The PE display knows that its not getting good stats, so it switches 
itself off, hence why its never comming up on startup. Smart isnt it! This is 
just 5.3 systems, where all the address offsets for the NI stats has changed, 
I will have a new kit for 5.3 systems, when I get the new addresses, and when I
have the prototype for the system monitor running correctly (Just have to find 
how to get stats on Page file, and Swap files and its done).

Fizbuz is now back open to the network, and the address in .0, will get you a 
kit for v5.2 systems. I'll post a not here when the V5.3 kit is ready.

Jim 

BANNER seems  to  insist that its windows always be at the top of the stack.
While  I  am  sure  that the feature is very useful, is there some way I can
turn it off?

I frequently  find  that  application  startup windows come up underneath my
banner  (I  use  windows  without borders and have them carefully aligned to
form  a fairly large block in the corner of my screen).  I then have to move
part  of the banner block in order to pick up the application window to move
it somewhere visible.

Graham

    Banner, and all other applications, can only have boarderless windows
    if it tells the window manager to leave its windows alone. This is 
    because it is the window manager who puts all the boarders on the 
    windows. What you are experiencing is an unfortunate side affect of 
    this action, since the window manager has no longer any knowledge 
    of Banner windows, all other windows which ARE handled by the window 
    manager are placed below these windows. (In fact with the HP window 
    manager this isnt true, and new windows can still be on top of the 
    banner windows, but our window manager seems to be different). 
    
    To help reduce the inconvience inside of banner you have the capability 
    of pulling windows with the MBI while in boarderless mode, and on the 
    popup menu you have a restore settings options, which will also restore 
    your original window possitions. However this is the best I can do I
    have no means as far as I know off, to control this behavour in the 
    window manager.
    
    Jim

Having read throught notes 80, 1339, and 1609, I'm afraid I still have a 
question...

I run banner on my workstation, soon to be upgraded to VMS5.3 et. al.(from 
VMS5.2 and FT DECW 2.0).  I am very pleased with it.  But that is not where
the problem is.

I'd like to monitor the free space on three disks of another machine and display
it on my workstation.  In principal, no problem.  However, that other machine
is running VMS5.1 and V1 DECwindows.  I'd like to run Mr. Saunder's Banner for
VMS5.2, as mentioned in .0 of this note, because it has the option to monitor
free space (vs. i/o).  

Before I ask them to install banner001 on that machine (which I don't have
system privs on), can anyone tell me if they ever tried to install/run the 
banner mentioned in this note?  Thank you.

                                          .steve.

Any ideas on .10??

Thanks, .steve.

I'm afraid I dont think it will work, there were eneugh changes between V1.0, 
and V2.0, that you will probably get toolkit error, and possibly even protocol 
error's. However I cant be sure, because I dont know anybody who has done this.

Sorry 

	Jim

Thanks anyways.

I'll have to wait a small lifetime for our cluster to be upgraded... 8^(

At least my box is up-to-speed. 8^)

                                 .steve.