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Conference bulova::decw_jan-89_to_nov-90

Title:	DECWINDOWS 26-JAN-89 to 29-NOV-90
Notice:	See 1639.0 for VMS V5.3 kit; 2043.0 for 5.4 IFT kit
Moderator:	STAR::VATNE

Created:	Mon Oct 30 1989
Last Modified:	Mon Dec 31 1990
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	3726
Total number of notes:	19516

1222.0. "Question on VMS Notes/decwindows" by DSSDEV::GRIFFIN (Throw the gnome at it) Wed Aug 02 1989 17:05

I am running notes on a VMS system, displaying on an ULTRIX system (UWS V2.2 FT)
and am having the following behavior:  clicking on a button while it is 
currently executing its callback prevents it from queing up the same event.

I want to be able to click on, say, Next Unseen before the current note has
finished displaying, because I know I don't want to read it.  But the click is
ignored.  This doesn't happen with applications I run locally.  Is it a VMS
thing, a Notes thing, or is there a problem with interoperability??

Is this the right place to post this???

Thanks,
Beth

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
1222.1	I think it was a conscious NOTES decision	DECWIN::KLEIN		`Wed Aug 02 1989 17:50`	12
	I suspect that it is a "Notes" thing. While you cannot normally expect an application to optimize its behavior based on mouse-ahead or click-ahead, in this case it appears that NOTES is completely discarding button events that are queued up during its callbacks. I do not like applications that discard my mouse(ahead) events, but there seems to be a difference of opinion here. -steve-
1222.2		CVG::THOMPSON	Notes Wars Veteran	`Wed Aug 02 1989 17:55`	6
	I believe that it's a VAX Notes limitation. I'd ask in CLT::VAXNOTES_BUGS if you think it's a bug. CLT::VAXNOTES_WISHLIST if you think it's a feature. Alfred
1222.3		QUARK::LIONEL	Free advice is worth every cent	`Wed Aug 02 1989 18:55`	9
	It's been discussed extensively in the NOTES conference, but probably in the one for NOTES V2 field test which is now closed. At one point NOTES would beep at maximum volume if you did "mouse-ahead". Go ahead and ask in VAXNOTES_BUGS. But look first to see if there is an existing discussion. Steve
1222.4	Notes is behaving correctly	GOSOX::RYAN	DECwindows Mail	`Thu Aug 03 1989 10:42`	8
	Notes ignores "mouse-ahead", as does Mail. I had some discussion with the human factors people on the issue, with the conclusion that "mouse-ahead" can cause too much confusion (not just to the application writer trying to effectively implement multi-threading to handle it, but to the user) to be worth it. Mike
1222.5		RAB::DESAI	Jatin Desai	`Thu Aug 03 1989 12:13`	11
	> Title: Notes is behaving correctly I do not believe that Notes is behaving correctly. Mail, on the other hand is behaving correctly. For example, when busy, Notes lets the user pulldown a menu and select an item and then just ignore it. Where as Mail, when busy, doesn't allow a user to pulldown a menu. Both ignores mouse ahead but Notes makes you think it did not ignore it (but it did). Jatin
1222.6		GOSOX::RYAN	DECwindows Mail	`Fri Aug 04 1989 10:00`	10
	re .5: Actually, I agree:-). Mail ignores button and key events when it processes events within a callback, so nothing will happen while the watch cursor is up (except, of course, what we're busy doing). I suspect Notes just sets a global that says "We're busy" and checks it when the callback is received, then returns silently if it's set. Mike
1222.7	notes editor wrap parameter?	WAHOO::LEVESQUE	Black as night, Faster than a shadow...	`Mon Aug 07 1989 16:59`	4
	Is there any way to get the notes editor to wrap when using decwindows? I hate it when I type past the end of the line and I have to wait to move the cursor back so I can insert a return.
1222.8		LESLIE::LESLIE	Andy �� Leslie, CSSE/VMS Newbury	`Mon Aug 07 1989 17:27`	4
	Nope. One of the reasons I seldom use DWNotes these days. - ��