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Conference bulova::decw_jan-89_to_nov-90

Title:DECWINDOWS 26-JAN-89 to 29-NOV-90
Notice:See 1639.0 for VMS V5.3 kit; 2043.0 for 5.4 IFT kit
Moderator:STAR::VATNE
Created:Mon Oct 30 1989
Last Modified:Mon Dec 31 1990
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3726
Total number of notes:19516

1185.0. "ddif- mailing, cabinets etc." by BERN01::TRACHSEL () Thu Jul 27 1989 12:25

good morning friends!

let's make it short:

we lost/loose/will loose some workstations business in switzerland primarily
against SIEMENS in big strategic accounts like swiss PTT, chemical industry,
federal departments etc. because:


- we do not have iconified documentation-(ddif-file)-adminstration
  (like e.g we had/have with INTERLEAF or ALIS etc. and its folders, cabinets,
  drawers etc.) rsp. the end user has to deal with ddif-files on dcl-level...

  - just simple stuff would be enough: any environment for the local decwrite
    user would do!

- because we have not an iconified easy ddif-file-distribution system for inside
  a lan.

  - just simple stuff would do: something like an iconified "decnet-based-
    ddif-file-copy-system" for workstations in a lan.

- bacuse we are in switzerland here and speak something like german (ever 
  heared about?)


please note:

- we don't need now a full sophisticated portation of all-in-1 functionality
  to decwindows (of course we need that too, but to avoid bigger damage we 
  would be happy with simple tools ***NOW***)

- we don't need now something like MICA or DWA1 etc. (of course we will be
  very happy to get it soon, but to avoid bigger damage we would be happy with
  simple tools ***NOW***)) 

- we just need the mentioned above ****NOW*****

- of course we can program that ourself (and obviously we have to do this...?!)
  but before investigating time/resources i ask the following

questions:

- is there allready any asset/program/etc. like that. we need it really just
  for demos!!! 



  we teach our customers in osf, uil, cda, ddif, osf, oda-odif, iso-osi,
  x11, -... and they just wonder why we don't show them such a nice and 
  simple thing as autmatic/iconified mailing and adminstrating of ddif-files!



thanks for any answers!

peter 

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1185.1KONING::KONINGNI1D @FN42eqThu Jul 27 1989 12:284
There is a German version of DECwrite...

	paul

1185.2LBDUCK::SCHOELLERWho's on first?Thu Jul 27 1989 12:467
You CAN mail ddifs (using either decw$mail or VAXmail) and you can include
them in notes files today.  You can always deal with the files using FileView.
I also vaguely remember hearing something about a more general filing cabinet
system though I don't remember where.

Dick

1185.3iconified ddif-handlingBERN01::TRACHSELFri Jul 28 1989 04:2426
    paul and dick,
    
    thanks for answer! 
    
    paul: "german decwrite" : intersesting! that would/will help allready
                              a lot!
    
    dick: "decw$mail and FileView": of course you and I would work like
                               this. but the customer(s) are somewhat
                               idefix. to work with decw$mail, FileView
                               and VAXmail etc. you need some minimum
                               VMS-experience (" directories, some dcl's
                               etc." ) and finally it is ***not the
                               functionality what we miss, it is a stupid,
                               simple user interface in form of icons
                               etc*** arround it. 
    
                               (sorry, i know, stupid is the wrong word,
                               but i think you understand me)
    
    have a good time!
    
    peter