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Conference bulova::decw_jan-89_to_nov-90

Title:DECWINDOWS 26-JAN-89 to 29-NOV-90
Notice:See 1639.0 for VMS V5.3 kit; 2043.0 for 5.4 IFT kit
Moderator:STAR::VATNE
Created:Mon Oct 30 1989
Last Modified:Mon Dec 31 1990
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3726
Total number of notes:19516

1125.0. "Windows in MV-II ?" by RTOIC::RSTANGE (double double toil & trouble) Tue Jul 18 1989 06:05

    I am not sure if I am in the right conference to ask the following
    question:
    
    - will DECwndows be available on a Microvax-II if for nothing more
    than a MS-DOS interface?
    
    - Does DECwindows include the possibility to directly read MS-DOS
    diskettes (RX50, RX31, and 3" diskettes when available on the Vax)?
    
    Thanx very much, Rudi.
    
    

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1125.1WSINT::MCLEMANThere can only be but one...Tue Jul 18 1989 07:4028
You seem to be a little confused to what DECwindows is.

DECwindows is a program in which the MIT X11 windowing system, along with
the Digital XUI (X user interface toolkit), CDA (Compound Document Arch),
and a set of OOTB (out of the box) applications, is implemented under
the VAX/VMS and the ULTRIX-32 operating systems. Another part of the
program is to provide an X server under MSdos, so that PC's can share in
this environment.

It provides a workstation user with a windowing environment, via a graphical
interface.

That's a real simple overview.

Now, there is a tool/application called VAXpc. This application provides
emulation of a PC/AT under the VAX/VMS operating system. The hardware of
the PC is emulated to the point where REAL MSdos will run under this
emulator. Thus providing an MSdos environment. (This all runs under 
DECwindows). It will interface with the RX33 and RX23 devices on most low
end workstation hardware platforms. (VAX based). It will NOT read copy
protected diskettes, or any other brain-damaged MSdos diskettes that some
paranoid person modified so no one can copy them. This is because it is
next to impossible to emulate the Disk controller chip.

I hope this answers your question, and puts you in context.

Jeff

1125.2got yaRTOIC::RSTANGEdouble double toil & troubleWed Jul 19 1989 09:217
    Thanx Jeff,
    you set me straight, I have been under the impression VAXpc has
    been part of DECwindows i.e. both in one piece. From what you say,
    VAXpc could therefor run on a Microvax_II without using windows.
    Thank's again, Rudi.
    

1125.3STAR::MFOLEYRebel without a ClueWed Jul 19 1989 10:177

	It can run on the �VAXII but it has to display to a DECwindows
	system/terminal.

							mike