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Conference bulova::decw_jan-89_to_nov-90

Title:DECWINDOWS 26-JAN-89 to 29-NOV-90
Notice:See 1639.0 for VMS V5.3 kit; 2043.0 for 5.4 IFT kit
Moderator:STAR::VATNE
Created:Mon Oct 30 1989
Last Modified:Mon Dec 31 1990
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3726
Total number of notes:19516

1033.0. "H/P Emulation" by CSOA1::HUNT () Wed Jun 28 1989 16:12

    We have a customer who needs to connect to an H/P 950 through terminal
    emulation. Today they are running REFLECTIONS 2392A emulations on a PC 
    but that will only allow them 2 simultaneous sessions. They want 3 
    simultaneous sessions to the H/P and one to the VAX all on the same
    monitor.
    
    Can we do this through DECwindows?
                 

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1033.1Need more info.FUEL::grahamSend in the Clones!Mon Jul 03 1989 19:5114
Your question/requirement is not very clear.

What software/OS is running on the VAX?

What kind of PC hardware and base OS software....CPU..memory etc.

DITTO for the HP machine.

Methinks TCP/IP with xterm should be adequate ..because it would be the
easiest and cheapest to implement in the PC X11 world.

Kris..

1033.2Let's try againCSOA1::HUNTTue Jul 18 1989 18:1411
    You're right, my initial note was confusing. Let's try again.
    
    How can a customer establish multiple terminal sessions (3 to 4)
    to an H/P 950? Text? Graphics?     
                                     
    We can use either PC's or Workstations running VMS or ULTRIX.
                                     
    Can this be done through DECterm? 
    
   

1033.3Maybe..FUEL::grahamSend in the Clones!Thu Jul 20 1989 00:3411
It is still not clear if the HP is running UCX (Unix) or MPE.

If it is running UCX, then DECterm (or xterm) with Ultrix/TCP-IP, is a good
idea.  If they want VMS, then look for a third party that can provide an
X11 TCP/IP interface.  This is because Digital doesn't have a VMS TCP/IP
product for X11 yet...and also, HP is not Decnet/X11 compliant (at least, not
yet).

Kris..

1033.4More detail and another customerCSOA1::HUNTTue Jul 25 1989 14:4222
We now have two customers interested in this type of emulation.

1) One wants to open an DECterm type window on either of to two H/P 
3000's, one Series 70 and one Series 950, both are running MPE-XL V1.2. 
The method of conntection is up to us (TCP/IP or direct connect through reverse
LAT...) as is the device (PC, VMS or ULTRIX).

They want to have three terminal windows to the H/P systems and one to a VAX 
system.

2) A second customer visited an IBM connectivity center in Dallas saw a PS/2 
open windows simultaneously on H/P (both 9000 and 1000 running RTE, full block
mode), IBM 4341 and a VAX. They approached us and asked if we could do this on 
a Workstation. Also, can we do it under TCP/IP.


Do we have any terminal emulation products that could help us? Can we do this 
in a DECterm? Can we create a VAXpc window and run a PC H/P emulator in that 
window? What would the performance be?



1033.5Sure thing......FUEL::grahamSend in the Clones! Tue Jul 25 1989 20:2529
>1) One wants to open an DECterm type window on either of to two H/P 
>3000's, one Series 70 and one Series 950, both are running MPE-XL V1.2. 
>The method of conntection is up to us (TCP/IP or direct connect through reverse
>LAT...) as is the device (PC, VMS or ULTRIX).
>They want to have three terminal windows to the H/P systems and one to a VAX 
>system.

This is very easy stuff for UlLTRIX using TCP/IP, although the HP MPE 
system won't probably have X.. but TCP is enuff to allow the HPs to talk to
UlLTRIX terminal sessions.  I believe VMS could can handle this using 
DECnet/3rd party software (eg. Wollongong).

>2) A second customer visited an IBM connectivity center in Dallas saw a PS/2 
>open windows simultaneously on H/P (both 9000 and 1000 running RTE, full block
>mode), IBM 4341 and a VAX. They approached us and asked if we could do this on 
>a Workstation. Also, can we do it under TCP/IP.
>Do we have any terminal emulation products that could help us? Can we do this 
>in a DECterm? Can we create a VAXpc window and run a PC H/P emulator in that 
>window? What would the performance be?

Again,  it is important that you tell us what software is running on the IBM 4341.
Ultrix has basic 3270 and some bisync caspabilities. VMS should  do this very well today.

Also, there are plans to support  IBM 3279 terminals in DECwindows (both  
ULTRIX and VMS).  Ask product management (NAC.. I believe, is the place to ask).

Kris....