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Conference bulova::decw_jan-89_to_nov-90

Title:DECWINDOWS 26-JAN-89 to 29-NOV-90
Notice:See 1639.0 for VMS V5.3 kit; 2043.0 for 5.4 IFT kit
Moderator:STAR::VATNE
Created:Mon Oct 30 1989
Last Modified:Mon Dec 31 1990
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3726
Total number of notes:19516

1019.0. "VMS DECwindows V2 IFT1 Kit" by STAR::ORGOVAN (Vince Orgovan) Mon Jun 26 1989 19:28

INTEROFFICE MEMORANDUM

          TO:      VMS DECwindows Internal   DATE: 23-June-1989
                   Field Test Sites          FROM: Paul Steeves and
                                                   Vince Orgovan
                                             DEPT: VMS 
                                             EXT:  1-1621
                                             LOC:  ZK03-4/T61
                                             ENET: STAR::STEEVES


          SUBJECT: VMS DECwindows "V2" Internal Field Test 1


AVAILABILITY

          The internal field test baselevel (IFT1) of VMS DECwindows 
	  "V2" is now available for your use. Note that this baselevel 
	  kit and all related documentation and project information are 
	  COMPANY CONFIDENTIAL. They should not be distributed or shown 
	  to non-Digital employees without the express written consent 
	  of VMS product management.

          Our primary purpose in distributing this baselevel is to
          test our software internally before sending it to our external 
	  field test sites. In addition, this release provides a 
	  functional and stable basis for application development.

          This baselevel contains all the functions that we plan to
          ship in "Version 2.0" of VMS DECwindows. Its performance is
          also a reasonable approximation of version 2.0 performance.
          Quality and stability, on the other hand, are both known
          to require work.

          This kit does not work with the unsupported "HPWM" window 
	  manager. We are working to analyze and fix this problem.

INSTALLATION NOTES

             To run this software you should be running VMS V5.2 SDC
             software. However, this software will also install on
             one pre-SDC version of VMS V5.2. --- VMS T5.2-41M (FT2).

             VMS DECwindows V2.0 is packaged as a layered product for ease of
             installation during field test. It is expected that it will be
             integrated with VMS V5.3 when actually released.

             Also note that this software replaces many
             base VMS components. You should plan to reboot any
             machine or cluster on which this software is installed
             once the installation procedure completes.
             If VMS upgrades or updates are applied to your system,
             the DECwindows field test kit must be reinstalled.

 *Important* This kit is NOT compatible with the decw$tailor facility
             provided by base VMS. Once it has been installed, you cannot
             use decw$tailor to remove optional DECwindows components.
             Please be sure to make a backup copy of your system disk before
             installing IFT1.


KIT LOCATION

          The IFT1 software savesets and a copy of this cover letter are 
	  available in the directory:

               VMSKITS::DECW$PUBLIC:[KITS.V2_IFT1]

          They are also available from other locations on the network. 
	  Please consult the DECWINDOWS notes file on node BULOVA
          for more details about these locations (NOTE 821).

          The savesets should be installed using the standard VMSIN-
          STAL procedure. During installation, you will be prompted
          to select which of the savesets and components of the kit
          you want to install. To copy all the savesets to your own
          system for local installation, use a variation of the fol-
          lowing command:

               $ COPY VMSKITS::DECW$PUBLIC:[KITS.V2_IFT1]DECWIFT1020.* -
				destination-directory

          Once again, remember to be sure to reboot your systems af-
          ter completing the installation.

DECWINDOWS TERMINAL FT KIT
(Not to be confused with DECterm terminal emulator)

	For the convenience of internal hardware field test sites,
        the software and documentation (release notes) used for field testing
        the DECwindows terminal (Digital's X-terminal) is also available
        in the directory:

	VMSKITS::DECW$PUBLIC:[KITS.V2_IFT1]XTERMINAL000.*

	This software requires DECwindows V2. To test this software you 
	must be a DECwindows terminal hardware field test site - with a 
	field test unit of DECwindows terminal hardware.  

	ALL inquiries about the DECwindows terminal field test or about	
	this unannounced hardware product should be directed to Vic 
	Bellemare, (VIDEO::BELLEMARE), DECwindows Terminal Product Manager.


DOCUMENTATION

          The release notes and associated documentation describing
          this baselevel and its installation are located in the di-
          rectories:

          VMSKITS::DECW$PUBLIC:[DOCUMENTATION.V2_IFT2.POST]

          VMSKITS::DECW$PUBLIC:[DOCUMENTATION.V2_IFT2.LN03]

          Most of the documentation consists of preliminary drafts
          of FT manuals that are still undergoing review. As such,
          it is still unstable. However, it is very important that
          you read the release notes and installation guide before
          attempting to install or use this software. They will spell
          out the restrictions and limitations of this baselevel for
          you.


TCP/IP Testing

	If you intend to test the new transport for TCP/IP you must
	also be running the Ultrix Connection product (UCX). 

	We strongly encourage all of you to report ANY problems you 
	observe in the new transport. This is an area in which we
	need a lot of testing. If you report any problems with this,
	please be sure to specify which version of UCX you are using.

ONLINE DOCUMENTATION

          Some of the VMS DECwindows documentation is available in
          an online format suitable for reading with the V2 IFT DECwin-
          dows Bookreader. The online manuals can be copied from the
          following directory:

           VMSKIT::DECW$PUBLIC:[DOCUMENTATION.V2_IFT1.ONLINE]

    ***	  If you have any problems locating or using the online ***
    ***	  documentation, contact Marion Weisenfeld (BLUMON::)   ***

          By default, the Bookreader will look for these files in the
          directory on your system named DECW$BOOK. (DECW$BOOK is a
          logical name for the directory SYS$SYSROOT:[DECW$BOOK].)
          If you copy the online documentation files to another disk
          or directory, you must redefine the logical name DECW$BOOK
          to point to that new location.

QAR SYSTEM

          A QAR system has been set up on TRIFID to allow you to re-
          port problems you have with VMS DECwindows. Please be sure
          to enter VMS-specific DECwindows QARs in the internal database
          DECWINDOWS-IFT. (Please be sure NOT to the use the
          DECWINDOWS-V2 database. It is reserved for customer use.)

          For internal access to the DECWINDOWS-IFT database you may
          use the QAR account:

               Name: QAR_INTERNAL
               Password: QAR

          When you enter a QAR, please be sure to explicitly state
          the name of the field test (or intermediate baselevel) you
          are running, the release of the VMS operating system you
          are running it on, and the type of workstation you are us-
          ing (e.g., VAXstation 2000/GPX).


CONFIDENTIALITY

          Once again remember, this project, baselevel kit, and doc-
          umentation are highly COMPANY CONFIDENTIAL. Do not discuss
          the contents of the field test or any of the specifications
          with people outside the company.

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1019.1PAGODA::WINALSKICareful with that VAX, EugeneMon Jun 26 1989 23:579
There is a typo in this announcement.  The documentation is actually in:

	VMSKITS::DECW$PUBLIC:[DOCUMENTATION.V2_IFT1.POST] and
	VMSKITS::DECW$PUBLIC:[DOCUMENTATION.V2_IFT1.LN03]

not in VMSKITS::DECW$PUBLIC:[DOCUMENTATION.V2_IFT2.xxx] as in .0.

--PSW

1019.2BURYST::EDMUNDS$ no !fm2r, no commentTue Jun 27 1989 06:405
    There is another typo in both the basenote and the first reply: the
    nodename is VMSKIT::, not VMSKITS::.
    
    Keith

1019.3Omitted from release notesGOSOX::RYANDECwindows MailTue Jun 27 1989 11:0812
       For field test only, DECwindows Mail has support for tracing
       user actions and internal state. This is enabled by defining
       the logical DECW$MAIL_TRACE to a file to which to write the log
       (i.e. $DEFINE DECW$MAIL_TRACE SYS$SCRATCH:DECW$MAIL.LOG). We
       ask that you always define this logical during field test, as
       the log will make it much easier to track down any problems.
       When submitting a QAR, please include at least the beginning
       section of the log (through "Startup complete"), and the
       section of the log where the problem occurred. If you do not
       include the entire log in your QAR, please keep a copy of the
       entire log in case we need more information.

1019.4VAX binding files missing from IFT kitQUARK::LIONELB - L - Oh, I don't know!Tue Jun 27 1989 14:0213
Caution - before installing this IFT1 kit, save a copy of the VAX binding
files for DWT (the DECW$DWTDEF and DECW$DWTWIDGETDEF) files for the
various languages.  V2 claims that it has broken these into separate
files and the old files just do an "include" of the new ones, but the new
files are not provided on the kit.  This wouldn't be so bad except that the
old ones WERE changed to include the new ones, so you're stuck with
no definitions.

I have QARed this.

				Steve


1019.5Where is 5.2JOELS::SARENJoel Saren-'Call Me EAR Responsible' Fri Jun 30 1989 06:464
    Where can I find 5.2?
    
    

1019.6See VAXWRK::VMS_FIELD_TESTSQUARK::LIONELFree advice is worth every centFri Jun 30 1989 08:327
    Re: .5
    
    See note 5 in the VAXWRK::VMS_FIELD_TESTS conference for V5.2
    (actually, still T5.2) kit information.
    
    				Steve

1019.7Ultrix Field Test ????ASDS::WALSHWed Jul 19 1989 09:082
When will the ultrix field test be available????

1019.8PROTO2::FISHERBurns Fisher 381-1466, ZKO3-4/W23Wed Jul 19 1989 11:565
I think it already is.  That is not to say I know how to get it, however.


Burns

1019.9ULTRIX DECwindows V2 FT1 kit (UWS T2.2)SMURF::COUTUHe who will not risk, cannot win.Wed Jul 19 1989 17:52198
This is the announcement of availability of the Field Test Kit for UWS T2.2
(you can call it ULTRIX DECwindows V2, same thing with different names.)

AVAILABILITY

External Field Test 1 of ULTRIX Workstation Software (UWS V2.2 EFT1)
is now available for your use.  Note that this baselevel and all related 
documentation and project information are COMPANY CONFIDENTIAL.

It is available internally for two audiences of users:

-  those who are now running UWS T2.2-BL3 or T2.2-pre-FT1 and wish 
   to upgrade their system to the latest UWS V2.2 bits slated to ship
   to external Field Test.

-  users of the present UWS V2.1/V3.1 software who wish to upgrade
   their system.  
          
All the information contained here should not be distributed or shown
to non-Digital employees without the express written consent of UWS
product management (Jon Hall  hall on sonora::).



CONTENTS

The software described in this memo and available by the below 
means is not a complete UWS V2.2/ULTRIX-32 V3.1 kit.  Only the UWS V2.2
bits can be obtained in this enet manner.  

This baselevel contains all the basic functions that UWS Engineering 
Development plans to ship in Version 2.2 (and V2.4) of UWS.  

Requirement:  To run this software you must be running 
	      ULTRIX-32 V3.1, SDC version.



KIT LOCATION for ENET installation

These bits were last updated July 8 5PM PDT.  If you retrived bits
prior to this date you will need to re-install this more current version.


EFT1 kits are located on gilroy in the standard place:

	/kits/uwsft1/{max,vax}/kit


The uwsinstall script in  /a13c/uws/kits/ft1  will install the bits
for you if you don't want to grab them.


                              NOTE
             
To run this software you should be running ULTRIX-32 V3.1 SDC version.

If you are not, you will need to edit your /etc/ttys file to use 
login.patch as opposed to login.



DOCUMENTATION
          
The release notes and associated documentation describing EFT1 and its
installation are located in these directories:

       EFT1 Documents*	     ravine:/usr/staff/r0/maler/uws/fieldtest
 	  release notes     
	  other DWs docs
	  

       DPS Documents	     gilroy /a13c/uws/phases/v22/phase2 

       Preliminary SPD       gilroy /a13c/uws/phases/v22/phase2   

       UWS Software Change   gilroy /a13c/uws/phases/v22/phase2  
       Submit forms

(* Installation Notes intended for external FT may not apply to the enet kit)       


INSTALLATION

The UWS V2.2 EFT1 kit files are maintained in setld-format for easy use
by the Ultrix ris and dms utilities.
	
To obtain and install the EFT1 subsets, copy the "uwsinstall" script
from GILROY and run it.  You may also intervene manually on your own 
initiative.
	
"UWS" is used to refer to both the VAX UWS subsets and the RISC UDW subsets.

   INITIAL SETUP

1. Preparation: become the root user with "su" and change your current
   directory to a partition with adequate free disk space. To acquire
   adequate space, you may choose to delete the old subsets prior to EFT1
   installation.  

   On disk space:  the full VAX distribution requires 20 megabytes; the full 
   RISC distribution requires 45mb.  These figures more than double to do
   a standalone installation.  


2. Copy uwsinstall script from gilroy

   Type:

		dcp gilroy::/a13c/uws/kits/ft1/uwsinstall

		chmod u+x uwsinstall


3. Run uwsinstall

   Type:
	./uwsinstall

    and answer the questions.

    You may copy the mandatory subsets, all the subsets, or individually
    chosen subsets. You may also choose to install immediately or defer
    installation to a later time. If you have ris or dms servers and
    clients, you must add the subsets to your own ris or dms configuration.


4. Clean up afterwards.

    Delete the subsets in the current directory unless you have determined
    you will need them later.


         
		    *IMPORTANT INSTALLATION NOTES*
  

Once the subsets have been copied to your machine, there are several
issues to keep in mind.
	Previously existing UWS subsets which are going to be overwritten,
        (in particular, the fonts) should be deleted with "/etc/setld -d".

	If fatal verification errors occur, check the subsets to see if
        they've copied correctly.

	Consult the ULTRIX documentation set for further information 
        on the ris, dms, and setld utilities.


Once again, remember to be sure to reboot your systems after completing
the installation. 
         

         
QAR SYSTEM

Please use the ULTRIX QAR database, UWS_QAR, for reporting quality problems
with this baselevel.
                
This QAR system is set up on GORGE (in ZKO) to allow you to report 
all internal problems you have with UWS software.  Each DRI should already have
an account on this machine.  Or you may use the general account, 

               Name: QAR_INTERNAL
               Password: QAR

Contact the Account manager:  Eileen Horner  decvax::eileen  with any questions.

When you enter a QAR, the system will ask you a series of questions.  Please
be sure to explicitly state you are reporting problems against product
version V2.2 EFT1.  



PROBLEM REPORTS

Unsupported software:  there are a number of software product components 
which continue, as in UWS V2.1, to be unsupported in UWS V2.2.  QARs will not
be honored for these components and will be automatically closed with a
statement of non-support provided. A statement of support is contained both
in the Release Notes and in the preliminary SPD.



INSTALLATION & PROCEDURAL PROBLEMS

Please contact, in this order:  Rich Hyde     415-853-6671  sonora::hyde
				Tom Patterson 415-853-6731  sonora::tp 


     
CONFIDENTIALITY

Once again remember, this project, baselevel kit, and memo are COMPANY
CONFIDENTIAL. Do not discuss the contents of this BL with people
outside the company.


1019.10Want to defer installation UWS 2.2VOGON::DRUMGOOLEAce King ! Check it Out !Tue Jul 25 1989 08:2115
    I copied the Ultrix field test kit but didn't want to install it immediately
    so I exited. Is there anyway the get the uwsinstall script to skip
    the copying of the files and jump straight into the installation.
    It takes quite a while to copy the kits so I would like to avoid 
    that if possible.
    
    I tried just editing out the copying section but it obviously
    sets up some stuff for the setld command because the script
    breathed its last as soon as it attempted setld.
    
    Any help much appreciated,
    
    Joe.
    

1019.11Use "setld"FUEL::grahamSend in the Clones! Tue Jul 25 1989 09:4525
If you have all the UWS T2.2  subsets, then this is what you need to do.

 Boot  your system to single-user mode ("b/3" and enter image name "vmunix" for a  VAX or,
 "boot -f rz(0,root fille disk #,0)vmunix" for a PMAX.....always run 'fsck" after single-user boot..
 You can then mount all your file systems with "mount -a".

1.  cd  to the target directory containing the subsets (this directory may be your own creation but
      you have to be root and in single-user mode)

2.  setld -l  <target directory> .....eg.  setld -l /usr/kits/UWS_2.2  ....to copy the files from di
      target destinations on disk.   Use setld -d  to delete the old subsets that are no longer need
      These should be the old and redundant UWS 2..1 subsets.

3.  /etc/doconfig  .....to rebuild your new kernel (please take the defaults to play safe).
     The system will prompt you for the location of the new kernel after it is built..usually in a p
      like /sys/.../SYSTEMNAME/vmunix.   Save your old kernel in / (root), and move the new kernel
     to /.   Reboot your system.....when all is fine, you may delete your old kernel.


BTW:  I tried the FT UWS 2.2 but found it so buggy that I went back to 2.1.   Good luck.


Kris...

1019.12VINO::VOBAMon Aug 07 1989 08:406
    I've upgraded my system to T5.2-1 before installing the DECWFT1020 kit.
    However, the DECW kit complained that the VMS version is not 5.2 or
    later!? Is this a bug in the DECW KITINSTAL?
    
    --svb

1019.13DECW$IGNORE_VERSIONAGBEAR::HORNERA.G.Bear, Low tech teddy bearMon Aug 07 1989 09:266
    I couldn't find where I read this, but do this first:

    	$ DEFINE/SYSTEM/NOLOG DECW$IGNORE_VERSION TRUE

               Dave

1019.14VINO::VOBAMon Aug 07 1989 09:574
    Re .13, thank you. That does work.
    
    --svb

1019.15SALPLN::HADACTue Aug 15 1989 13:474
    Will DECWindow Ver 2.0 work with VMS T5.2-41S ??
    
    

1019.16antiquesYUCATN::LASTOVICAStupid Yellow Sign on BoardTue Aug 15 1989 17:203
gawd!  upgrade to *at least* V5.2 or T5.2-1 if you want to run ft stuff.  41s
is really old.

1019.17QUARK::LIONELFree advice is worth every centTue Aug 15 1989 17:597
The IFT1 kit is obsolete anyway - you'd want the EFT1 kit (announced
somewhere...).

But I agree - update to V5.2.

		Steve

1019.18DECW020 or DECWFT1020 ?FIXERS::BERRYHey, it&#039;s a kind of magicWed Aug 16 1989 13:5918
	While on the topic of the different DECW kits! - Could someone clear up
some of my confusion?
	The kits I find on the net are

	DECW052.C-G dated 15 JUNE 1989
and
	DECWFT1020.A-H dated 12 JULY 1989

	The DECW052 kit is located with the VMS052 SSB release, so I presume
this kit is the DECW SSB release. Right or wrong?
	But the DECWFT1020 kit has a newer date? 
	Is there really any differences between the kits? I wish to use one of
these for my VS2000/GPX (an internal system). Would it make any difference in
which one I used? Or are there newer test kits that would be more interesting
to test?
	Thanks if you can help.


1019.19QUARK::LIONELFree advice is worth every centWed Aug 16 1989 14:467
The DECW052 savesets provide the version of DECwindows "V1" that is
included in VMS V5.2.  The DECWFT1020 savesets are newer and provide a
field test version of DECwindows "V2" (that will presumably ship with
a future VMS release).

				Steve

1019.20STAR::MFOLEYRebel without a ClueWed Aug 16 1989 17:037
       
       
       	And the DECW052 savesets are applied using
       SYS$UPDATE:DECW$TAILOR.EXE. The DECW IFT V2 kits are done using
       SYS$UPDATE:VMSINSTAL.COM
       						mike

1019.21QUARK::LIONELFree advice is worth every centWed Aug 16 1989 17:306
Not really...  The general way that the DECW052 savesets get installed is as
part of the regular VMS V5.2 installation (using VMSINSTAL).  Only if you
choose to not install DECwindows initially do you use DECW$TAILOR later.

			Steve

1019.22STAR::MFOLEYRebel without a ClueThu Aug 17 1989 02:316
       
       
       	I assumed that he didn't have DECWindows installed already Steve.
       
       							mike