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Conference bulova::decw_jan-89_to_nov-90

Title:DECWINDOWS 26-JAN-89 to 29-NOV-90
Notice:See 1639.0 for VMS V5.3 kit; 2043.0 for 5.4 IFT kit
Moderator:STAR::VATNE
Created:Mon Oct 30 1989
Last Modified:Mon Dec 31 1990
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3726
Total number of notes:19516

989.0. "How to create a custom terminal window?" by KYOA::MIANO (O.K. so who cares about the METS?) Tue Jun 20 1989 20:03

A customer has requested a demo program for next Friday to demonstrate
the feasability of using DECwindows to run multiple PROFs sessions.
They suggested having a DECterm window with pull down menus to simulate
IBM terminal function keys.  When these menus are activated they should
transmit a code through the terminal.

Question 1:   Is it possible to customize DECterm to do this?
         2:   If so what is the best way to go about it (examples perhaps)?
	 3:   If not, what is the best way to do it

John

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989.1Also post in SNAGWY ..STAR::CYPRYCHWed Jun 21 1989 09:004
    I would suggest you also post this in the SNAGWY
    notesfile - SMAUG::SNAGWY.   The IBM Interconnect
    group may have some good suggestions also.  

989.2more infoSMAUG::FLOWERSIBM Interconnect Eng. 226-7716Wed Jun 21 1989 10:3224
There is a product called the DECnet/SNA 3270 Terminal Emulator
that will do (almost) everything you're looking for.  (For both
VMS and Ultrix.)

This 3270 TE runs on Vtxxx's as well as in DECterms (and dxterms).  It 
maps the Digital keyboard keys to IBM 3270 keys.  (For example, the 
keypad is mapped by default to the 24 IBM PF keys.)  The keyboard is also
customizable by each user with a nice help screen showing the layout.

In a nutshell, using the 3270 TE with a DECnet/SNA Gateway or VMS/SNA 
software, users in a DECnet environment can easily access (with the same
terminal or workstation terminal windows) applications (like PROFS, DISOSS,
etc) on the IBM host...


The only thing this current product does not do what you described in .0 is
give you any DECterm menu bar features...and if you really want a full
DECwindows solution (with color and graphics), we're working on that too!

Again, as Nancy (an old co-worker of ours) said in .1, see the SMAUG::SNAGWY
notesfile.

Dan

989.3KYOA::MIANOO.K. so who cares about the METS?Wed Jun 21 1989 10:5010
RE: 1., .2

Thanks, but the IBM part is not the problem right now.  If
I can get a terminal window widget with some button or pull down widgets
that goes to the DCL prompt and have the ability for the window application
to transmit codes through the terminal (implement the function keys)  the
person doing the demo says the he can run the IBM stuff from DCL.

John

989.4The fastest way to get it working is with UDKsHANNAH::MESSENGERBob MessengerWed Jun 21 1989 11:1313
Re: .0

In order to add pulldown menus to simulate function keys you'll either have to
modify the DECterm source code or else implement your own menus using the
DECterm widget.  This could take more time than you have available (especially
if "next Friday" means the 23rd).

An easier way to add IBM function key support would be to define shifted
function keys using UDK definitions.  This is described in the DECterm Text
Programming Manual and in the VT330/VT340 Programmer Reference Manual.

				-- Bob

989.5TESTAR::CYPRYCHWed Jun 21 1989 14:2410
    re: .3
    
    Does the person doing the demo say that in order to get
    their stuff to work,  they need to send IBM key codes to
    the IBM from the DEC terminal emulator?   I think thats
    what Dan in .2 is saying his IBM terminal emulator can do,
    but he's the expert.
    
    Nancy

989.6KYOA::MIANOO.K. so who cares about the METS?Wed Jun 21 1989 15:1412
RE: .5
>    Does the person doing the demo say that in order to get
>    their stuff to work,  they need to send IBM key codes to
>    the IBM from the DEC terminal emulator?   I think thats

No...I think the function keys are just meant to be dummies to 
illustrate what could be done.  The idea is to have multiple
PROFS sessions on one tube with the ability to scroll and do 
cut and paste between windows.

John

989.7Which PROFSSTAR::CYPRYCHWed Jun 21 1989 16:155
    Do you mean PROFS running on VAX/VMS talking to
    an IBM?  Or PROFS running on the IBM but you are
    logged in from a DEC host somewhere (going through
    sna gateway).

989.8KYOA::MIANOO.K. so who cares about the METS?Wed Jun 21 1989 17:346
RE: .7

PROFS running on a dinosaur that you are logged on from a DEC host.

John