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Conference bulova::decw_jan-89_to_nov-90

Title:DECWINDOWS 26-JAN-89 to 29-NOV-90
Notice:See 1639.0 for VMS V5.3 kit; 2043.0 for 5.4 IFT kit
Moderator:STAR::VATNE
Created:Mon Oct 30 1989
Last Modified:Mon Dec 31 1990
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3726
Total number of notes:19516

865.0. "PS and AFM files" by NYMPH::ZACHWIEJA (It's 85% or bust) Thu Jun 01 1989 12:39

    
    Are there any utilities to generate the .PS and .AMF files for
    a family .DECW$FONT files or their associated BDF files.
    
    None of the terminal fonts provided with DECwindows have these
    files out there.
    
    _sjz
    

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865.1Isn't that a bike?EPIK::BUEHLERI'm no rocket scientist, but...Thu Jun 01 1989 16:308
>    Are there any utilities to generate the .PS and .AMF files for
>    a family .DECW$FONT files or their associated BDF files.
    
    Minor correction:  Zach is refering to the Adobe Font Metric files
    (AFM, not AMF).
    
John

865.2AMF, AMF :^)GOFER::HARLEYWell, I could stay a bit longer...Thu Jun 01 1989 21:147
>      <<< Note 865.1 by EPIK::BUEHLER "I'm no rocket scientist, but..." >>>
>                            -< Isn't that a bike? >-
    
    Not anymore, the family bought the company back...
    
    /Harley (goin' on 20 years ridin' em...)

865.3STAR::MFOLEYRebel without a ClueThu Jun 01 1989 23:328
       
       
       	And I thought AMF stood for "Adios Moth...." nevermind....
       
       	:-)
       
       						mike

865.4We thank you for your support.NYMPH::ZACHWIEJAIt&#039;s 85% or bustFri Jun 02 1989 10:3814
    
    Actually it was a type.  It was supposed to say something like
    from the .DECW$FONT files.

    We have all these terminal fonts but  they  are  exactly  that.
    There seems to be no way to print them out  because  we  don't
    have the associated font metrics.
    
    We obviouly have all the glyphs in the .DECW$FONT  files,  and
    there has to be .BDF files for those fonts.  The  question  is
    can we create the font metrics if we have the glyphs ?
    
    _sjz.

865.5Fonts not for general useDDIF::BRAMHALLMark BramhallMon Jun 05 1989 13:178
    The VMS release notes (I haven't checked the Ultrix release notes)
    specifically state that the fonts used by the terminal emulator are
    *NOT* to be used by anything else!  So, I am not surprised that there
    are no .AFM and/or .PS files...
    
    If you want to be able to use these fonts, it looks like you will have
    to talk to whoever made the "do not use" decision.

865.6VWSENG::KLEINSORGEToys &#039;R&#039; UsMon Jun 05 1989 17:0018
    
    Knowing Zach's reason for asking is that the UIS => DDIF converter also
    must translate fonts to the closest DECwindows equivalent.  Well, the
    DECwindows terminal fonts originated as CFFF fonts and are available
    on VWS - so they are direct replacements.  Now, the Courier fonts can
    be used as a reasonable replacement -- EXCEPT that it appears that
    there is no DECtech (Technical Character Set) available except as
    terminal fonts...  So UIS files that might have the technical
    character set cannot be output!
    
    Now, if there is some clever way around this (like the tech set is
    within the symbols font or some such thing)...  Otherwise it's another
    apparent hole in actually being able to use a converted UIS file with
    anything that reads DDIF (like using color images :-( or writing
    modes).
    
    

865.7DDIF::BRAMHALLMark BramhallTue Jun 06 1989 21:229
    Hi, Fred & Zach, it's me again...
    
    I knew Zach's reason for asking -- but, the official party line (not my
    making!) had to be stated.
    
    I'll admit the lack of writing modes in DDIF (anyone interested can
    read a long diatribe on this in the DDIF::DDIF conference), but that
    was on purpose.  But wait, play fair.  We do color images!

865.8VWSENG::KLEINSORGEToys &#039;R&#039; UsWed Jun 07 1989 13:375
    
    Huh?  *You* might, but my printer told me to take a flying leap.