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Conference bulova::decw_jan-89_to_nov-90

Title:DECWINDOWS 26-JAN-89 to 29-NOV-90
Notice:See 1639.0 for VMS V5.3 kit; 2043.0 for 5.4 IFT kit
Moderator:STAR::VATNE
Created:Mon Oct 30 1989
Last Modified:Mon Dec 31 1990
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3726
Total number of notes:19516

785.0. "Errors in user guide (version 5.1)" by 45616::PARSONS () Tue May 16 1989 13:30

I spotted a few things when I was reading the DECwindows User Guide 
(version 5.1):

o Most of the info on pages 2-16 to 2-19 inclusive is not true of the LSE and 
  EVE applications.  For example:

  - To copy text from an EVE or LSE window to another window, you must NOT
    click MB1 after selecting the text.

  - QuickCopy doesn't work with EVE or LSE.

  I was really confused for a while and couldn't work out why nothing I tried
  out at my terminal seemed to work.  I decided that these pages describe how
  all applications except text editing applications work.

o Typo on page 4-47, first line of "Executing a DCL command" should read 
  "directly" and not "directory".

Thats all.  

Judy Parsons

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785.1User misunderstanding perhaps?EVETPU::REINIGThis too shall changeTue May 16 1989 14:0915
    Are you talking about DECwindow's EVE or character cell EVE?  Quickcopy
    works fine with DECwindow's EVE.  With character cell EVE, EVE tells
    DECterm that it wants mouse escape sequences so that it can position
    with the mouse.  This has the side effect of disabling DECterm's
    quickcopy support.  If you want DECterm quickcopy to work when
    character cell EVE is running in the DECterm window, use the TPU
    statement:
    
            set (MOUSE, OFF);
    
    TPU will tell DECterm that it is no longer interested in mouse escape
    sequences and this will turn back on DECterm's quickcopy support.
    
                                        August G. Reinig

785.2How Quickly They Forget...EVETPU::TANNENBAUMex-TPU DeveloperThu May 18 1989 00:5710
    TPU and EVE V2.2 (released with VMS V5.1) didn't support quickcopy. 
    Unfortunatly, quickcopy was finalized *after* the DECwindows V1
    functionality code froze.  We decided that fixing bugs was more
    important than adding new features.
    
    TPU and EVE V2.4 (now in internal field test - see EVETPU::TPU_NOTES
    for kit location) has added quickcopy support.
    
    	- Barry (TPU V2.2 project leader)

785.3documentation should not be subtleSTAR::DENHAMTue Jun 06 1989 17:3830
    As the author of the VMS DECwindows User's Guide, may I suggest that
    you (.0) perhaps missed two paragraphs in Chapter 2, one in the section
    titled Copying Text and the other in the section titled Moving Text,
    that indicate the very thing you reported in .0.  These paragraphs 
    follow both the procedures for copying and moving text and 
    state
    
       EVE uses other methods for copying text.  See the VMS DECwindows  
       Desktop Applications Guide for more information about copying text
       in EVE.  [the one in the Moving Text section substitutes the word
       "moving" for "copying.]
    
    While I tried to indicate that EVE did not implement these techniques
    for copying and moving text, I fear that I was a bit too subtle.  To 
    solve this, I've changed the paragraph for the next version of the 
    manual to read
    
       EVE uses DIFFERENT [emphasis won't appear in book] methods for
       copying text.  See the VMS DECwindows Desktop Applications Guide....
    
    And as you've seen in .2, QuickCopy has been implemented for the next
    version of DECwindows EVE, so no additional documentation corrections 
    or retractions will be necessary.
    
    Thanks also for reporting the typo.  Consider it fixed.
    
    Susan Denham
    VMS Documentation