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Conference bulova::decw_jan-89_to_nov-90

Title:DECWINDOWS 26-JAN-89 to 29-NOV-90
Notice:See 1639.0 for VMS V5.3 kit; 2043.0 for 5.4 IFT kit
Moderator:STAR::VATNE
Created:Mon Oct 30 1989
Last Modified:Mon Dec 31 1990
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3726
Total number of notes:19516

778.0. "Can't login to Ultrix/DECwindows" by 4268::A_CHEN (clever phrase.) Fri May 12 1989 17:52

    I'm having a Ultrix/DECwindows problem, can someone help?
    
    I just download an Ultrix operating system and DECwindows software
    to a MicroVAX II system.  It seemed that I have the entire system,
    root and usr file systems, loaded in and started.  At the console,
    I saw the DECwindows' "START SESSION DIALOG BOX" show up waiting for
    login.  But for some reason, the system does not respond to my keyboard
    and mouse at all.  By the way, the system I downloaded to it was installed
    on a VS 2000 system.  I use a product RSM(Remote System Manager) to
    backup its root and usr file systems and try to restore it onto a
    MicroVAX II.
    I
    In file /etc/ttys, I have commented out the line that starts
    'dxsession' (I guess) and uncommented the line for console terminal.
    The file now looked like:
    
       console "/etc/getty e" dw3 on secure # console terminal
        ....
       # 0: "/usr/bin/login -P /usr/bin/Xprompter -C /usr/bin/dxsession" \
         none on secure window="/usr/bin/Xqvsm -fd 75 "
    
    I then reboot the system, it runs and talks to keyboard.
    
    Could someone help?  I'll appreciate your pointers.
    
    Alex
    

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778.1but first answer these questions...SMURF::HOFFMANanywhere in the universeMon May 15 1989 12:3021
    re .0
    
    For starters, what do you mean by "download an ULTRIX operating
    system and DECwindows software to a MicroVAX II system"?
    What version of software is this?  Did you perform a Remote
    Installation Services [aka RIS] installation?  Do you have a
    valid ULTRIX license for the system that you downloaded to?
    This last question is not of technical importance, but it is
    of very high LEGAL importance.  You are NOT allowed to run
    ULTRIX software on an unlicensed system except under special
    circumstances.  You could jeopardize the entire company's right
    to use and sell UNIX software (such as ULTRIX) if you violate
    the licensing terms.  
    
    Also, why did you disable the /etc/ttys line that starts
    the X Server along with Session Manager & X Prompter?
    
    John Hoffman
    ULTRIX DECwindows Engineering
    

778.2Let me clear up a little bit4268::A_CHENclever phrase.Mon May 15 1989 14:5753
    I was to avoid much confusion as I can, but I guess I did not do well.
    I'll try to answer those questions in .1 and to clear up what I'm doing.
    
    >>> Do you have a valid Ultrix license for the system that you downloaded
        to?
    
    	Yes, I do.  I was an Ultrix system.
    
    >>> What do you mean by "download and Ultrix O.S. and DECwindowns software
        to a MicroVAX II system"?
    
        Well, basically what I'm doing is to run extractly same set of software
        (Ultrix v3.0 and DECwindows, in this case) on MicroVAX II as the ones
        on my VS 2000 system with no more than one installation.  Another
        words, I'd like to install Ultrix v3.0, DECwindows, etc, on VS 2000;
        and use a tool - RSM(Remote System Manager) - to pull the VS 2000's
        root and usr file systems over to RSM's library; and later on use
        RSM's operation - ISL(Initial System Load) - to propagate these
        software to other systems within the same LAN area.
    
    >>> Did you perform a RIS(Remote Installation Services) installation?
    
        Yes, I did install Ultrix v3.0 and DECwindows onto my VS 2000 via
        RIS.
    
    >>> Why did you disable the /etc/ttys line that starts the X server along
        with Session Manager & X Prompter?
    
        Every step seemed to go smooth until DECwindows is up.  The Ultrix &
        DECwindows are running on VS 2000 for quite a while without problems.
        RSM did successfully fetch the root and usr file systems from VS 2000
        and RSM's ISL reports successfully load the file systems over to
        MicroVAX II.  In fact, the last step of RSM/ISL brings up the system
        successfully, DECwindows is running.  I got the DECwindows' "DIALOG
        BOX" waiting for me to enter user name and password.  Up to this
        point, everything happens just the way I have expected.  But then,
        I can make my key stroke echo on screen, I can use the mouse.
        Fortunately, I was able to 'set host' or 'dlogin' into this system.
        Since I need the console, so I then disable the line in /etc/ttys.
        
        I was able to use the console after disable the line in /etc/ttys.
    
    Hope this will help you to understand what I'm doing.  I'm new to
    DECwindows.  May be the question should be asked was "is there any
    different DECwindows software or setup in between VS 2000 and MicroVAX
    II?"
    
    I hope I did not confuse you again.
    
    Thanks alot for your help,
    Alex