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Conference bulova::decw_jan-89_to_nov-90

Title:DECWINDOWS 26-JAN-89 to 29-NOV-90
Notice:See 1639.0 for VMS V5.3 kit; 2043.0 for 5.4 IFT kit
Moderator:STAR::VATNE
Created:Mon Oct 30 1989
Last Modified:Mon Dec 31 1990
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3726
Total number of notes:19516

763.0. "LOGO won't disappear under V5.1" by DEALER::WESTMORELAND () Wed May 10 1989 17:42

    I am experiencing problems with DECW V5.1 and VMS V5.1.  I have DECW
    running on both VS2000's and GPX systems.  When DECW is started as the
    last step of my Systartup_V5 the DIGITAL Logo remains on the screen
    once you log on.  If you quit the session and log on again this problem
    disappears.  I have check my Systartup_V5 to see if DECW is started
    more than once this however is not the case.  Now, I have also removed
    the DECW startup from Systartup_V5.com and activated it manually once the
    system is booted.  If I do this then the DIGITAL logo problem DOES NOT
    appear.  Please help I am befudled!
    
    BTW. I have also had problems with the lack of response from the mouse
    buttons from the main log-in screen.  The mouse moves the pointer but
    will not activate any of the response cells.

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763.119458::FISHERBurns Fisher 381-1466, ZKO3-4/W23Thu May 11 1989 12:038
I would say you almost certainly have two logins running at the sametime.
How this happens, I could not guess.  You should be able to verify this
with a SHOW SYS.  As to what causes it, I don't know given that you have
checked your startup file.  Is it possible that this happened only
once, or does it happen repeatably?

Burns

763.2LOGO problem37755::WESTMORELANDThu May 11 1989 16:4311
    Burns,
    
    	This seems to happen with some consistency when you log on
    directly after system startup.  Once you resolve the problem by
    "quitting" the session manager it does not reappear unless the system
    is rebooted.  
    
    	Is there a particular process that controls the Digital log which
    would get duplicated; if so what would the process name be?  Appreciate 
    the help, Rob.

763.3DECWIN::FISHERBurns Fisher 381-1466, ZKO3-4/W23Thu May 11 1989 18:236
The logo is run by the login process, which is started by sending a mailbox
message to the job controller (just as with a terminal).  I'm afraid we'll
have to wait till the login/session manager guru gets back from DECUS.

Burns

763.4Logo Problem37755::WESTMORELANDFri May 12 1989 12:372
    Ok, I'll wait a see what the Guru has to say.  Thanks again.  Rob.

763.5Possible solution7415::DMCARRThose summer nites are calling...Fri May 12 1989 14:0612
    One possible cause is if you're running RSM. In sys$manager, there's
    a file named rsm$startup_commands.dat which contains a list of
    the installed products and their associated startup commands. Change
    the startup command for decwindows to be the string "rsm(#)keine"
    (don't ask why this particular string is used - its a mystery), & this
    will keep rsm from starting a second decwindows session. (There is
    another note elsewhere in this conference re: this situation, but I'll
    be darned if I can find it).

							-Dom

763.626137::DILIDDOI'm not indecisive.......Am I?Sun May 14 1989 22:5715
	I've had the same problem as mentioned in .0 -- and I'm not
	running RSM.  Reply .2 described it best, logging in immediately
	after system startup.  The only difference being that my logo 
	does disapear after you enter username and password but then
	pops back while the session manager is starting.

	I've also tried logging in to the "new login screen" and it
	works perfectly.  I end up with two session manager icons
	as well as two DECterm 1's two DECterm 2's etc..

	I'm running V5.1-B on a Mayfair/GPX

	-Jim

763.7PROBLEM RESOLVED37755::WESTMORELANDWed May 17 1989 17:506
    Dom,
    
    	You indeed were correct.  I followed your suggestions and the
    problem was resolved.  Appreciate the help it certainly had me stumped. 
    Thanks again. Rob.

763.8YES I wanna remove the logo!!!!ROMCSA::RAMPAReal men don't use menu ! Wed Jun 28 1989 07:217
    hi,
    
    	I would remove the DEClogo from the login-out or (better)
    subistitute it with a custom one... In the related .dat file seems to be
    possible to set the logo constant to False but: it works on ultrix  but
    not on VMS... Can anyone find a way to remove it ?

763.9IBM had the same questionNEURON::NICHOLSONA belly as big as an oil spillWed Jun 28 1989 10:5716
    To remove the DIGITAL logo from the login process on VMS, you define
    an exec mode logical in the SYSTEM logical name table with the name
    DECW$LOGIN_BACKGROUND.  It doesn't matter what value you assign
    the logical, but it must be in the SYSTEM table and in exec mode
    as those are the only logicals that LOGINOUT looks at.
    
    $define/exec/system decw$login_background anything
    
    I've heard in the future you will be able to point to a file with
    your logo.  I also heard that one of the first customers to call
    the CSC here in CS to find out how to do this (disable the logo)
    was IBM.  It seems Big Blue didn't like having our logo in large
    letters on their VAX workstations.
    
    Mark