Conference bulova::decw_jan-89_to_nov-90

re: -1

You could enable 100 dpi fonts for the whole workstation, or you can 
selectively use big ones per app. Look at some of the .dat files in
DECW$SYSTEM_DEFAULTS: and copy one to your directory and modify it
to your hearts content. (THough it may not be supported).

    Some of the applications have the font size HARD CODED (oh horrors,
    how evil).  This includes DECterm, for instance.  Other than choosing
    big font (which doesn't change the menus), you CAN'T change the
    font size.  No amount of resource messing will do it.  This may
    be true for fileview as well, although I am not sure.
    
    Most of the other applications can be changed with a resource, I
    don't remember off the top of my head, but I've used something like:
    
    notepad*font*: helvetica14
    
    to fix up the notepad.  I have that problem with things like xedit
    as well. You might have to experiment with periods and asterixes.
    
    I'm particularly incensed that DECterm font size is not changeable,
    'though I'm sure they had their reasons...
                                                                     
    If you haven't messed with resource files before (Xdefaults.dat
    and variations) there are lots of note with details about them.
    
    Ken B.

	It takes more than one resource line to change the fonts for
	many applications. The best thing to do is to look at the
	system resource file for the application (for example,
	DECW$SYSTEM_DEFAULTS:DECW$MAIL.DAT), extract all lines
	containing the string "font", and copy them to your local
	resource file. Then, modify all the font specifications.
	In the middle of most of them you'll see a number like 120
	(which corresponds to a 12-point font) for most fonts you
	can modify this to 100 (for a smaller font) or 140 (for
	a larger font).

	Mike

       
       Try using the 132 column condensed font in an 80 column window. I
       find that comfortable for now..
       
       						mike

Re: .2

>    Some of the applications have the font size HARD CODED (oh horrors,
>    how evil).  This includes DECterm, for instance.

It's not true: you can select your Big Font by changing the bigFontSetName
resource and you can select your Little Font by changing the littleFontSetName
resource.  You can change the font used in menus by setting DECW$TERMINAL*font.

				-- Bob

    
    Of course, changing the font name to a font that isn't monospaced
    and with the same internal layout will probably yield less than
    desireable results in DECterm :-)
    
    

    re .*  -
    
    Thanks to all for the suggestions.  I will look into each of them.  I
    was kind of hoping that there was an easy way to globally change the
    font size "everywhere" with a simple command or define but I guess not.
    

Re .3:

Well, I too have been dissatisfied with the microscopic nature of
the font used in Windows Notes, so I took your suggestion and dug
up a file NOTES$DEFAULTS.DAT in SYS$LIBRARY, added it to my 
DECW$DEFAULTS.DAT and changed all the 120's to 140's in all the font
specifications.

Well, besides getting larger, the font seems to no longer be 
proportional spaced. This is correct since the font is COURIER--...-M-...
as opposed to ...--HELVETICA--...-P-... (I am assuming that the -M-
stands for "monospaced" and the -P- stands for proportional), but
the question is, why wasn't it monospaced before? All I changed was
the 120 to 140.

Next question is that by using a larger font, I'll also need to make
the window larger. I tried increasing all the widths by a factor
of 1.1666 (140/120) but that didn't seem to work out right. Does 
anybody know how wide a window should be to accomidate 80 14pt COURIER
characters plus a vertical scroll bar?

                                                   
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re .8:

Another question; in NOTES$DEFAULTS.DAT was the line:

Notes*EDIT_WORK_TEXT.wordWrap:		 off

which I naturally changed to "on" hoping that the EDIT buffer would 
wrap as on a VT instead of just scrolling to the right. However it 
still scrolls. Is there a way to get it to do what I want?

                                                   
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RE: .9
>  Notes*EDIT_WORK_TEXT.wordWrap:		 off

The wordWrap resource comes from the SText widget.  You definitely *do not*
want to turn it on!  This causes the SText widget to internal wrapping
when displayed, but it doesn't insert line-feed characters into the
text.  When you insert the note into a notes file in this situation
it will become one long line!

-Jer

    re .10:
    
    Thanks for the warning, but both .8 and .9 were entered with that
    resource "on". Why aren't they "one long line"?
    
                                                   
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I used to run with Helvetica 14pt, but got tired of looking at garbled pictures
done with character cell graphics (such as your signature).  Here's what I'm
using now:

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Notes*READ_WINDOW.height:                500
Notes*READ_WINDOW.width:                 755

Notes*READ_WORK_TEXT.font:              -Adobe-Courier-Bold-R-Normal--*-140-*-*-
M-*-ISO8859-1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Seems to work OK, and is much more readable than the default.

Tim

I find the terminal font much more legible than the Courier font.  Take
a look at koning::user0:[koning]notes$defaults.dat if you want to see it.

By the way, there is a conference on NOTES, some of the questions discussed
here would probably go better there.  Look on CLT::.

	paul

whaooh. whatdhesay? this stuf is going way over my head. Maybe beacause the
font on my window is so small that I cant see whats going on. 

Here are a couple of basic questions;

 1)	In my root login directory I have the followinf dat files.
		DECW$SM_COLOR.DAT
		DECW$SM_GENERAL.DAT
		DECW$TERMINAL_DEFAULT.DAT
	Is there somewhere I can look to find out what these files are for
	and what I can put in them?

  2)	I am running notes from a remote server and using my workstation as a 
	client. my monitor is 100dpi and the notes font is to small. This is
	probably why I couldn't find a NOTES$DEFAULTS.DAT in SYS$LIBRARY.
	Is there still a way to have notes come up with a larger font.
	Ideally I'd like to do something like what is mentioned in note 15.0
	"tell the server, via the PRIVATE_SERVER_SETUP file, that I have a 100
	dpi monitor". How is this done?

thanks for any big ideas

andy

>  2)	I am running notes from a remote server and using my workstation as a 
>	client. my monitor is 100dpi and the notes font is to small. This is
>	probably why I couldn't find a NOTES$DEFAULTS.DAT in SYS$LIBRARY.
>	Is there still a way to have notes come up with a larger font.
>	Ideally I'd like to do something like what is mentioned in note 15.0
>	"tell the server, via the PRIVATE_SERVER_SETUP file, that I have a 100
>	dpi monitor". How is this done?

I don't know if telling the server you have a 100 DPI monitor will help,
but if you want to try it, you should read the directions in the file:

	SYS$MANAGER:DECW$PRIVATE_SERVER_SETUP.TEMPLATE

It gives the complete directions for customizing your server setup.

By the way, the workstation runs the X server (think of it as a display
server), and the remote note runs the client (in this case, notes).

Many thanks, that did it. What a difference!