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Conference bulova::decw_jan-89_to_nov-90

Title:	DECWINDOWS 26-JAN-89 to 29-NOV-90
Notice:	See 1639.0 for VMS V5.3 kit; 2043.0 for 5.4 IFT kit
Moderator:	STAR::VATNE

Created:	Mon Oct 30 1989
Last Modified:	Mon Dec 31 1990
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	3726
Total number of notes:	19516

591.0. "non-DECW wm/sm/te for VMS" by GUIDUK::MEARNS () Wed Apr 12 1989 20:40

	What options does a VMS DECwindows customer have in terms of
	the window/session managers and terminal emulators.  I have a
	customer who wants to run uwm or xwm and xterm, so that he can
	extend the X environment he's come to love under X10 on Ultrix
	(and other platforms) into his VMS environment.

	He ran the DECwindows session manager and window manager on Ultrix
	for about a day before concluding he didn't like it.  He easily
	backed off to uwm and xterm.  Can he get the same for VMS?

	RSM

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
591.1	An answer from New York	CALL::SWEENEY	Wall Street is my beat	`Thu Apr 13 1989 00:30`	12
	For what is shipped with VMS, what is on the release tape is _it_. On the other hand, Software Services sees the customization and extensions of DECwindows as a tremendous opportunity to add value. Provided that the Digital employees involved have a good understanding of the business and technical issues involved, it would certainly be possible to get uwm and xterm to run under VMS. I personally haven't done this but perhaps other people have either for the hack value or because they have customers who have contracted with Digital to provide it.
591.2	Options that exist or will exist...	LARRYC::SYSTEM	Larry Callaghan	`Fri Apr 14 1989 16:25`	13
	If he doesn't like the policy of the Decwindows style he can either define his own by getting the standard X11V3 tape from MIT and make it work on VMS workstations (with our help?$), or wait a bit and use another style, Motif. I've put the internally available preliminary (HPWM) version on my VMS workstation and it not only is closer in look and feel to UWM but seems (correct me if I'm wrong) less rigid than Decwindows (preferable to some of our customers). We have shown it to some of our customers (on Ultrix) under nondis- closure and the ones that were used to the default X windows style really liked the HP/Microsoft/pre-Motif style. See note 338 for information on the sample HPWM window manager. Larry C.