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Conference bulova::decw_jan-89_to_nov-90

Title:	DECWINDOWS 26-JAN-89 to 29-NOV-90
Notice:	See 1639.0 for VMS V5.3 kit; 2043.0 for 5.4 IFT kit
Moderator:	STAR::VATNE

Created:	Mon Oct 30 1989
Last Modified:	Mon Dec 31 1990
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	3726
Total number of notes:	19516

546.0. "WORKSTATIONS" by PBA::COOK (WAY COOL!) Thu Apr 06 1989 14:24

    
    
    We are getting DECwindows installed on a MicroVax soon, and wanted
    to order WorkStations so that three other users could also access
    it. The problem is I don't know which sorts of workstations I can
    use with DECwindows and where to find prices for them.
    
    Can any one help???
    
    -- Angela.

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
546.1	Use VTX to find prices..	FUEL::graham	if ya want home cookin, stay home	`Thu Apr 06 1989 21:36`	17
	If you want reasonably priced VAXstaions, try the VAXstation 3100 (avoid the VAXstation II GPX if you can because DECwindows price/performance makes the VAXstation 3100 better choices) The VAXtation 3100 will run both VMS and ULTRIX. However, if you have users who want UNIX workstations that 'beg' for more work, then, the DECstation 3100 (PMAX), is what you really want. (I am assuning that you are not interested in 3-D...there're fast VAXstations that will do 3D very well too.) I am not in sales, so you have to get more help elsewhere on the prices. good luck, Kris..
546.2		QUARK::LIONEL	The dream is alive	`Tue Apr 11 1989 14:22`	6
	Unfortunately, getting either a VS3100 or DS3100 internally seems to require VP approval.... VS2000s are in good supply, just get them with the maximum memory. Steve
546.3		PEABOD::HOLT	Ultrix Apps Group, UCS	`Tue Apr 11 1989 17:29`	3
	Word around here is that DS3100s are more plentiful than vaxes...
546.4		WSINT::MCLEMAN	Jeff McLeman	`Wed Apr 12 1989 10:09`	1
546.5	I'd take one!	ATSEA::ELLISON	That is truly a wetbrain concept.	`Wed Apr 12 1989 10:26`	12
	It's go tto be difficult having a great piece of machinery and not enough software to run on it... Does the DS3100 REQUIRE that graphics apps be written in DECwindows or X? I'm under the impression that the Ultirx Workstation Product isn't available so that EVERYTHING has to be ported... Jan I think I got that right, but I'd like confirmation...
546.6	DECstation-3100 requires UWS V2.0A	LDP::WEAVER	Laboratory Data Products/Science	`Wed Apr 12 1989 17:03`	5
	The DS3100 requires Ultrix Worksystem Software V2.0A. This version of UWS only provides X version 11 servers. -Dave
546.7	What I have seen...	FUEL::graham	if ya want home cookin, stay home	`Wed Apr 12 1989 20:44`	19
	I have been running PMAX (aka DS3100) hardware and software since field test. My Utrix installation software calls itself : "Ultrix WS V2.0 (RISC)" DECwindows functionality is not very different between VAX and PMAX. Dave is correct - the PMAX runs an X11 server. All native DECwindows applications such as OTB applications, all run on the PMAX. The big difference is that, the PMAX is significantly fast when running DECwindows. Layered applications like DECwrite, I believe, are in the process of being ported. Kris...