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| 357.1 | | MU::PORTER | what's in a name? | Wed Mar 08 1989 14:20 | 17 |
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By "composite" characters, do you mean compose-key thingys?
Press compose and space at the same time. Now type the usual
two characters.
The explanation is this: the key to the immediate left of the
space bar, formerly known as "compose", is now known as "alt".
If your keyboard happens to have "compose" written on the key, that's
too bad -- the key is still "alt", whatever the engraving says.
The "compose" function is now invoked by "alt/space".
You might notice that some application menus say that you can achieve
the same effect as a particular entry by pressing "alt/something".
Now you know where the alt key is!!
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| 357.2 | thanks! | ASANA::CHERSON | can't think of one at the moment | Thu Mar 09 1989 16:14 | 4 |
| Thanks! Yes, I do mean the "compose thing-y's".
David
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| 357.3 | So THAT'S where it is!!!
| MJBVAX::BLIZZARD | | Fri Mar 10 1989 13:50 | 18 |
| Re: .1
I've been looking for that ALT key since december. I can't believe how hidden
it is. It's not in the HELP, BOOKREADER and the MANUALS. I've even had trouble
finding it in this notesfile!
The ALT key may be printed on the new keyboards, but not on mine, and I have
a new VS3100.
This has GOT to be better documented, folks.
[ I am more frustrated with myself for not finding it ]
How are our customers going to know this?
- Mike
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| 357.4 | Guess you'll just have to wait for the next keyboard... | WAYLAY::GORDON | The shimmer of distance... | Fri Mar 10 1989 18:36 | 11 |
| Gee, my FT version of the now-defunct LK301 keyboard has this nifty
little key next to the space bar labeled:
Alt Function * [not really an asterisk - more like a
(Compose Char)) reverse default DECwindows icon with
a dot in the middle...]
--D
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| 357.5 | it's in the documentation right where you'd expect to find it | PSW::WINALSKI | Paul S. Winalski | Sat Mar 11 1989 14:23 | 27 |
| RE: .3
It's very plainly spelled out in TFM, to wit, page 2-20 in the VMS DECwindows
User's Guide. I quote:
To compose a character using the list of compose sequences in
Appendix A in the VMS DECwindows Desktop Applications Guide:
1 Find the character you want to create in column 1.
2 To compose a three-stroke sequence, press the Compose key
and space bar, and then type the two characters in column 2.
To compose a two-stroke sequence, type the two characters in
column 3. The desired character is displayed.
To cancel a compose sequence, press the Compose key and space
bar, <X] key, Tab key, Return key, or Enter key.
I found this by the nice index entry, "Compose sequence defined, 2-20".
So it's documented exactly where you would expect to find it--in the beginner's
guide.
--PSW
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| 357.6 | | VWSENG::KLEINSORGE | Toys 'R' Us | Sun Mar 12 1989 21:41 | 10 |
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DECwindows really needs a seperate couple page document inserted
into every applicable manual of "things that don't work like you
expect or are used to". And "The most common DECwindows problems and
questions".
I have a couple small bets on the compose key change being the #1
call to the telephone support centers.
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| 357.7 | Invisible ALT key | CADSYS::PSMITH | Pamela Smith, HLO2-2/B11 | Mon Mar 13 1989 08:55 | 15 |
| Re .5:
I think what .3 meant is that he couldn't find the "ALT" key. I
have a workstation that's only a year old, and its keyboard says
"COMPOSE KEY" for what's now being called the ALT key.
I was playing around with DECwrite on Friday and had the darndest time
trying to find the ALT key so I could do some nifty keyboard
acceleration. I searched all over my keyboard and all through DECwrite
Help for information on where to find the key. (Under the Key section
in Help it lists what each key does but not where to find them.)
I think that's what .3 meant -- that if your application uses an ALT
key that's labeled COMPOSE KEY on most keyboards, it would be nice to
mention it. It would be a friendly thing to do. That's all!
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| 357.8 | easy with computer-based documentation | XANADU::FLEISCHER | Bob 381-0895 ZKO3-2/T63 | Mon Mar 13 1989 13:09 | 13 |
| re Note 357.6 by VWSENG::KLEINSORGE:
> DECwindows really needs a separate couple page document inserted
> into every applicable manual of "things that don't work like you
> expect or are used to". And "The most common DECwindows problems and
> questions".
And with online documentation, it doesn't actually have to be
"inserted" everywhere, but just a live cross-reference to the
appropriate pages.
Bob
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| 357.9 | LK301 gone? | WJG::GUINEAU | | Tue Mar 14 1989 08:26 | 6 |
| re .?
Why is the LK301 now Defunct? I kind of like it.
John
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| 357.10 | | ASIA::MCLEMAN | Jeff McLeman | Tue Mar 14 1989 09:37 | 4 |
| Yech! Poo!
Great trash bin fillers.
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| 357.11 | Reliability testing... | IO::MCCARTNEY | James T. McCartney III - DTN 381-2244 ZK02-2/N24 | Tue Mar 14 1989 19:52 | 9 |
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What I've heard is that the LK301 was canceled because there were some
unresolved reliability issues and the LK401 was due to be released a very
short time later. Also the LK301 did not meet all the DIN requirements so
it could not easily be sold in the German market.
James
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| 357.12 | It's for all those MS-DOS types | NZOV01::MATHESON | Robin killed by The Joker? Holy terminations, Batman! | Wed Mar 15 1989 23:09 | 13 |
| RE: not finding the ALT key -- where have you people been recently?
That most pervasive of computers, the MS-DOS compatible system,
uses the ALT key. To reboot your peecee when the system bombs yet
again, you hold down the CTRL key, and the ALT key, press the keypad
PERIOD key (which when modified by the ALT key is the Delete key).
And guess where the ALt key can be found -- yup, right where our
Compose Character key was. Think of it as one small step to help
all those peecee users migrate to a real operating system.
cheers, Ken.
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| 357.13 | | VWSENG::KLEINSORGE | Toys 'R' Us | Thu Mar 16 1989 10:45 | 6 |
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Hmmm. I guess that means we should have a default binding of
COMPOSE-CTRL-PERIOD to OPCCRASH on VMS :-)
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