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Conference bulova::decw_jan-89_to_nov-90

Title:DECWINDOWS 26-JAN-89 to 29-NOV-90
Notice:See 1639.0 for VMS V5.3 kit; 2043.0 for 5.4 IFT kit
Moderator:STAR::VATNE
Created:Mon Oct 30 1989
Last Modified:Mon Dec 31 1990
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3726
Total number of notes:19516

334.0. "XUI -> OSF/Motif" by DC101::LEVENTER (Steve Leventer FSG dtn 339-5204) Tue Mar 07 1989 09:13

    What will it take to port applications from XUI to OSF/Motif? What 
    guidelines should be followed? Is UIL code more portable than
    high or low level calls?
    
    This is an important issue for our customers if we are selling XUI as
    a standard graphical programming interface.
    
    Steve

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334.1Porting to OSF/MotifWINERY::GRANTLive free or WISH you had.Tue Mar 07 1989 15:0915
There has been some discussion of this in the OSF notesfile (kp7, etc), you 
might check there.  BTW - that notesfile has gotten more interesting 
recently.

My understanding is that since we were awarded the API, which is what 
programmers use, the changes necessary to XUI/UIL applications will be
"minimal". The number of companies looking at XUI will put alot of pressure
on OSF to make sure that the API changes are indeed minimal.   The SCO 
announcement is an example of a company wanting to go to Motif and taking 
XUI to get a head start.

BTW - Motif will not use click to focus. ;->

g.

334.2"Click to focus" may be optional...FUEL::grahamif ya want home cookin, stay homeSun Mar 19 1989 01:3020
I have been using a snapshot of the HP/OSF Motif Window Manager for only
a couple of days...I see OSF has good reasons for their choice. the window
manager is very flexible...click to focus can be turned on ala dxwm-style,
or turned off ala uwm-style ( like style from X10.4 days).

Here is how its done from the .Xdefaults file...

for DECwindows 'dxwm-style":

*[Hp]wm.keyboardFocusPolicy:     explicit 
*[Hp]wm.interactivePlacement:    False

for 'uwm-style":

*[Hp]wm.keyboardFocusPolicy:     pointer
*[Hp]wm.interactivePlacement:    True


Kris...

334.3Where is the creature?IO::MCCARTNEYJames T. McCartney III - DTN 381-2244 ZK02-2/N24Tue Mar 21 1989 14:546
Is the HP/OSF/Motif window manager available from anywhere?

Dare anyone ask about a VMS version?

James

334.4See NAC::ULTRIX, note 395.11MIPSBX::thomasThe Code WarriorTue Mar 21 1989 15:051
334.5And no, don't dare think about a VMS version...MIPSBX::thomasThe Code WarriorTue Mar 21 1989 15:098
It doesn't use a standard Xtoolkit but an extended X.V11R3 one (which 
means all the VMS changes to Xt have to merged in).  Plus it doesn't 
contain any globaldefs/globalrefs.

It would be a non trivial effort to port to VMS.  Instead use Ultrix. :-)
You could always run remotely under Ultrix and point it back to VMS
(actually it doesn't do too bad remotely).

334.6EEMELI::PEURAPekka Peura, CSG-HelsinkiTue Mar 21 1989 15:2219
    It indeed is possible to run hpwm remotely on an Ultrix system
    to control windows on a VMS workstation. There are some problems
    but it works well enough to get some feeling of the new style.
    
    This is what i did.
    
    1) stop window manager on the VMS system
    
    2) on the ultrix system
    
    	# setenv DISPLAY node::
    	# hpwm &
    
    
    
    	
    		regards
    				Pekka

334.7STAR::MFOLEYRebel without a ClueThu Mar 30 1989 18:446
	Read 338.6 for a VMS HP window manager...


							mike

334.8Motif for internal use....SICVAX::GRAHAMif ya want home cookin, stay homeSun Sep 24 1989 18:5310
    
    The OSF Motif toolkit, window manager and some demo programs
    are now availaible for internal sampling.  
    Please note that the above items are not supported by Engineering.
    
    Please refer to SUBWAY::MOTIF (note 7.*) for kit info.
    There are pointers for documentation in the Motif Conference.
    
    Kris....