[Search for users] [Overall Top Noters] [List of all Conferences] [Download this site]

Conference bulova::decw_jan-89_to_nov-90

Title:DECWINDOWS 26-JAN-89 to 29-NOV-90
Notice:See 1639.0 for VMS V5.3 kit; 2043.0 for 5.4 IFT kit
Moderator:STAR::VATNE
Created:Mon Oct 30 1989
Last Modified:Mon Dec 31 1990
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3726
Total number of notes:19516

311.0. "interoperability - how?" by MISFIT::KAPLAN (Anne S. Kaplan) Mon Feb 27 1989 12:48

    A simple question looking for a detailed answer:
    
    If I've got a PMAX and a PVAX, how do I open a window on each showing
    a process on the other?
    
    I know it's been done, but where, if anywhere, is it written down
    HOW?
    
    Thanks

T.RTitleUserPersonal
Name
DateLines
311.1ie, ultrix-vms interoperabilityMISFIT::KAPLANAnne S. KaplanMon Feb 27 1989 12:502
    p.s.  the PVAX is running VMS.

311.2SICVAX::TIMMINSXUI & OSF - Perfect TogetherMon Feb 27 1989 13:0017
    
    re .0,.1
    
    Probably, in about 40-50 notes that have already been written.  That
    probably doesn't help you for the moment, but if you can be more
    specific, I'll reply with what you need to do.
    
    Q1.  Are you on the Ultrix or VMS workstation?
    Q2.  What level of transparency is needed (same on VMS and Ultrix, Ultrix
         user needs to perform set host and VMS DCL commands, visa versa, etc.)?
    Q3.  Anything specific in mind?  Transparent printing of Ultrix file to
         VMS-based printer?  Start Bookreader on VMS and display on Ultrix?
         Have 3D Globe running on DS3100 and displaying on VS3100 (VMS) and
         DS3100 (Ultrix).
    
    ljt

311.3Demo Environment Soon to be availableSICVAX::TIMMINSXUI & OSF - Perfect TogetherMon Feb 27 1989 13:3156
    
    For the Jan 10-13 DECtop announcement, I made a goal of the NYA ACT demos
    to include both VMS and Ultrix DECwindows interoperability and the
    VMS/Ultrix Connection transparency.
    
    What we did was have three key systems:
    
    		VAX 6200   VMS 5.x  DECwindows, VMS/Ultrix NFS server host
    			   LAVc
    
    		VS2000     6MB, diskless, mono, booting VMS DECwindows off
    			   the VAX 6200
    
    		DS3100     Ultrix, 16MB, Color
    
    On the DS3100, we set up an account 'actdemo' which would startup and
    layout the applications upon login.  At the top of the screen would be
    an extremely modified 'xsh' menu bar for selecting and firing off the
    applications to be started locally.  
    
    On the VS2000, after booting of VAX 6200, the user would login and
    SET HOST to the DS3100.  Upon logging in to 'actdemo2', the user would
    find the same menu bar displayed at the top of the VS2000 window.  After
    that the VMS user could iconify or exit the terminal emulator used to log
    into the DS3100 and use the only the menu bar to startup.  If it isn't
    obvious, one could have the DS3100 startup the menu bar on the VS2000
    automatically and with a little bit of luck/timing all would work fine.
    
    Here is where the VAX 6200 plays another role behind the scenes.  As the
    VS2000 user starts up applications, all of them execute on the DS3100 (by
    choice).  However, depending on which application is invoked, the RISC
    executables may actually be stored (using NFS) on the VAX 6200 and they
    will be loaded over the network to the DS3100 prior to starting the
    application running and having the user interface displayed on the
    VS2000.
    
    We maintain this environment for the NYA ACT.  We keep a DS3100 (used for
    porting and benchmarking) at 2 Penn Plaza, NY with a duplicate of the
    actdemo account (including the menu bar and executables).  However, the
    system is not stable enough (in terms of availability) to post it for
    access at the moment.
    
    If this is of interest, please send me mail and I will provide a way to
    access the system to copy the information for the DS3100.  In the training
    I gave the NYA DWTs (district workstation teams), we reviewed the demos
    and key messages, including interoperability, and the DWTs used this 
    environment throughout the roadshows.
    
    Larry Timmins
    Financial Resource Center/SIC
    
    P.S. (Chris Graham (Eastern URC) assisted in getting the demos 
    available. George Brothers (Palo Alto) provided some of the initial DS3100
    demos when we needed them last year).