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Conference bulova::decw_jan-89_to_nov-90

Title:DECWINDOWS 26-JAN-89 to 29-NOV-90
Notice:See 1639.0 for VMS V5.3 kit; 2043.0 for 5.4 IFT kit
Moderator:STAR::VATNE
Created:Mon Oct 30 1989
Last Modified:Mon Dec 31 1990
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3726
Total number of notes:19516

271.0. ">>> knowing the right keyboard before login" by MAN01::REICHARDT (Dieter Reichardt SWAS,Mannheim) Wed Feb 22 1989 09:33

	We have a Ni-cluster environment with several workstations
	running DECWindows with different keyboards e.g. german keyboards and
	north american keyboards.

	Now my question: How can I manage that my workstation knows
	after boot time what keyboard is connected and uses the correct one.

	This problem is extremly nasty when one has a "z" or a "y" in
	the password ( these letters are exchanged on german keyboards).

	Is there any procedure to configure the keyboard during workstation
	boot.

	regards dieter

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271.1Try DECW$PRIVATE_SERVER_SETUP.COMOIWS20::BRYSONWed Feb 22 1989 10:3810
    One of the purposes for DECW$PRIVATE_SERVER_SETUP.COM is selecting
    for multiple nodes.  See Section 2.4.2 "Server Startup Command
    Procedures" in the VMS VERSION 5.1 INSTALLATION GUIDE.  This will give
    you the steps involved and a listing of the keymaps which may be
    used.  There is a template file for this command procedure in
    SYS$MANAGER called DECW$PRIVATE_SERVER_SETUP.TEMPLATE.
    
    David
    

271.2If it only were a password problem... :-)KIPPIS::BACKSTROMPetri B�ckstr�m, FS/CO/SSGThu Feb 23 1989 15:2610
    I'd like to know how to do it in ULTRIX as I have an account
    name of 'pb�', which I have to type using a compose sequence
    to be able to log in at all. I know, I could use another
    account name, but I like the account as is and I'd rather
    see the real problem fixed; i.e. how to define the right
    keyboard at boot time on ULTRIX (I'd also be happy if the
    customize option could save my choice, which it doesn't).
    
    ...Petri

271.3I just spent 3 hours looking; I'd say you're out of luck until UWS catches upCVG::PETTENGILLmulpFri Feb 24 1989 23:171
271.4KIPPIS::LEHTINENPersonal name under constructionSun Feb 26 1989 07:2511
    Re:  < Note 271.3 by CVG::PETTENGILL "mulp" >
    
     -< I just spent 3 hours looking; I'd say you're out of luck until U >-
    
    Wha???

    "until U" ?
    
    Timo (who would also like to know the answer to .1)
        

271.5no particulars about futuresSMURF::HOFFMANanywhere in the universeSun Feb 26 1989 12:569
    re .3 and .4...
    
    perhaps we should leave the statement as is...
    I think we're talking about future versions here, and it would
    not be proper to discuss particulars of version number or schedule.
    Nuf said?
    
    John

271.6Sorry about truncated statement...CVG::PETTENGILLmulpMon Feb 27 1989 15:403
What I was saying was that you would have to wait until Ultrix released a later
snap shot of the common DECwindows code.

271.7Tried DECW$PRIVATE_SERVER_SETUP.COM, didn't work.MAN01::REICHARDTDieter Reichardt SWAS,MannheimFri Mar 10 1989 11:3731
	re. .1

David ,

I tried the mentioned procedure and it didn't work. I'm not knowing
now if I made something wrong or if it just doesn't work under VMS 5.1.

Here is the piece of DCL-CODE I added to DECW$PRIVATE_SERVER_SETUP.COM.

	.
	.
	.
	$ node_list = "MYNODE/HISNODE/...."
	$!
	.
	.
	.
	$!
	$DO_MYNODE:
	$!MYNODE hat deutsche tastatur
	$ DECW$DEFAULT_KEYBOARD_MAP  == "AUSTRIAN_GERMAN_LK201LG_DP"
	$ decw$keymap == "AUSTRIAN_GERMAN_LK201LG_DP"
	$EXIT
	$!

May be there are some more hints.


thanks    dieter

271.8almost thereSTAR::BRANDENBERGIntelligence - just a good party trick?Fri Mar 10 1989 12:2816
    Dieter
    
    You need to create logical names for these, I think.  At the time this
    command file is executed, there is a predefined symbol for adding
    logical names to the correct logical name table called
    "decw$define_server".  Here is my private_server_setup file:
    
$ if f$search("sys$manager:decw$server_''p1'_access_trusted.dat") .nes. "" then -
        decw$define_server decw$server_access_trusted sys$manager:decw$server_'p1'_access_trusted.da
$ if f$search("sys$manager:decw$server_''p1'_access_allowed.dat") .nes. "" then -
        decw$define_server decw$server_access_allowed sys$manager:decw$server_'p1'_access_allowed.da
    
    (But ignore the 'p1' stuff, it isn't supported yet.)
    
    						monty

271.9?You've been burned by a minor bug.PRNSYS::LOMICKAJJeff LomickaFri Mar 10 1989 12:3517
There's a bug in this stuff, I found it when creating the "Unix"
keyboard mode.

Do a SHOW LOG/TABLE=DECW$* DECW$KEYMAP with privs enabled.

If you look in table DECW$LOGICAL_NAMES, you find DECW$KEYMAP is
defined as SYS$COMMON:[SYS$KEYMAP.DECW.USER] and [.SYSTEM], but in
DECW$SERVER0_TABLE, it's SYS$COMMON:[SYS$KEYMAP.USER] and [.SYSTEM]. 

It turns out that the files are in the DECW$LOGICAL_NAMES area, but the
server looks for them in the DECW$SERVER0_TABLE area.  I solved it by
creating the directory SYS$COMMON:[SYS$KEYMAP.USER] and putting my
keymap files there.  You might also be able to solve it by a
$ DEFINE/TABLE=DECW$SERVER0_TABLE of the correct values.



271.10Logicals not needed in SDC v5.1OIWS20::BRYSONSat Mar 11 1989 04:4310
    Re .8:
    
    In SDC v5.1, you don't need logicals for the DECW$SERVER_ACCESS*.DAT
    files.  Are the logicals new for multi-headed support?  It would make
    sense that these files would be named DECW$SERVER_#_ACCESS*.DAT when
    multi-headed support comes.
    
    David
    

271.11STAR::BRANDENBERGIntelligence - just a good party trick?Mon Mar 13 1989 11:478
    
    Yes, I know they're not needed (I wrote the code) but they can be used.
    And I use them here to support a second head and a remote session.  As
    multi-seat will be the exception and not the rule, there really isn't
    any need to change the names, merely define logicals as above.
    
    					m

271.12I just know what I tryOIWS20::BRYSONMon Mar 13 1989 12:548
    
    Sorry Monty.  I wasn't trying to be smart or something; I was just
    saying that they weren't required.  Thanks for the logical; it will
    help me with my mult-head security!
    
    David "I just know what I try" Bryson