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Conference bulova::decw_jan-89_to_nov-90

Title:DECWINDOWS 26-JAN-89 to 29-NOV-90
Notice:See 1639.0 for VMS V5.3 kit; 2043.0 for 5.4 IFT kit
Moderator:STAR::VATNE
Created:Mon Oct 30 1989
Last Modified:Mon Dec 31 1990
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3726
Total number of notes:19516

241.0. "Still confused 5.01d0 to 5.1" by PLANET::BIRO () Fri Feb 17 1989 13:25

    I am still very confused as to how to upgrade my vms 5.01D0 to 5.1.
    I have read the notes conference VMSNOTES 203.x and am still not
    clear as to how the VMSU2_DW1_050.% works.  Is all I need to do
    is apply this upgrade then the released 5.1?  Or do I have to chance
    that RMS.exe from a 5.1 then VMSU2xxx. or RMS.exe then 5.1.....
    
    I have to be almost positive before I go up.... Have no way to back
    this cluster up other than over the network into another cluster.
    
    thanx for a repetitive question

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241.1Here's what we didLDP::GABRIELCMP/ISV DECwindows Tech SupportFri Feb 17 1989 14:2525
    
    
    This is how we upgrade most of our FT2 systems.....
    
    	o  Apply DECWDELETE if DECwindows is already installed
    
    	o  Install DECWBL11000.%
    
    	o  Install VMSU2_DW1_050.%
    
    	o  Install VMS051.%
    
    	o  Install next version of DECwindows (SDC version)
    
    The reason we had to install DECWBL11 had to do with RMS.EXE.
    I believe there is a short cut that would allow you to copy over
    RMS.EXE from a system already running V5.1 and then you can delete
    the installation of DECWBL11, but I have yet to try this.
    
    
    Good Luck !!!!
    
    +Joe+
    

241.2Where is DECWDELETEABSZK::GREENWOODTim. Asian Base SystemsSat Feb 18 1989 17:037
Where is DECWDELETE - I cannot find it on VMSKIT::SYS%$KITS:

I tried to install VMS 5.02 over 5.01 and DECwindows IFT2 and it failed because
DECwindows was installed. What is the next step ? (Is DECWBL11 really needed?)

Tim

241.3My 2� worthGOFER::HARLEYAt home, you can scratch where it itchesSun Feb 19 1989 10:3111
    Here's what I'd suggest:
    
    1) Install VMSU2_DW1_050 (I have a copy in MPGS::Sys$Kits:<DECW.FT2>)
    2) Reboot
    3) Install VMS051
    4) Install DECW051
    
    This should get you to 5.1
    
    /Harley

241.4IAGO::SCHOELLERWho&#039;s on first?Mon Feb 20 1989 11:1916
DECWDELETE was shipped with some early base levels.  The reason that Joe's
approach requires the installation of BL11 is that DECWDELETE screws up.  In
the early baselevels the DECwindows kit included a patched RMS.  In the later
baselevels that was moved into VMS.  DECDELETE removes the patched RMS and
the subsequent DECwindows installation does not remove it.  YOU SHOULD NOT
USE DECWDELETE.  Instead, manually delete the following:

SYS$SYSTEM:DECW$*.EXE;*
SYS$LIBRARY:DECW$*.*;*
SYS$SYSROOT:[DECW$FONT...]*.*.*

That should give you plenty of space and allow you to skip the BL11
installation.

Dick

241.5In the release notes ??LDP::GABRIELCMP/ISV DECwindows Tech SupportMon Feb 20 1989 14:0311
    
    Dick,
    
    Was this mentioned in the release notes somewhere ?  Should I have
    RTFM before I replied ?
    
    Confused,
    
    +Joe+
    

241.6It worked !ABSZK::GREENWOODTim. Asian Base SystemsMon Feb 20 1989 14:546
Harleys procedure described in .3 worked. Thanks Harley. Perhaps 
one of the powers that be could copy VMSU2_DW1_050 from 
MPGS::Sys$Kits:<DECW.FT2> to VMSKIT::SYS$KITS.

Tim

241.7Mentioned in here I thinkIAGO::SCHOELLERWho&#039;s on first?Mon Feb 20 1989 15:4512
re: .5

Joe,

I am not sure if it was in the release notes.  It was mentioned in the old
DECWINDOWS conference (and I think somewhere in here too).  If I remember
correctly, the reason that it did not go in the release notes was that
almost all of our customers would never even have heard of DECWDELETE
let alone seen it.

Dick

241.8My copy will hang around for a whileGOFER::HARLEYAt home, you can scratch where it itchesMon Feb 20 1989 20:267
    re .6
    
    I'll leave the kits where they are for a while; they're getting more
    than enough use, and I have the space.
    
    /Harley