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Conference bulova::decw_jan-89_to_nov-90

Title:DECWINDOWS 26-JAN-89 to 29-NOV-90
Notice:See 1639.0 for VMS V5.3 kit; 2043.0 for 5.4 IFT kit
Moderator:STAR::VATNE
Created:Mon Oct 30 1989
Last Modified:Mon Dec 31 1990
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3726
Total number of notes:19516

226.0. "Can't get DECwindows to start" by DIXIE1::SPRINGER (Information Overload - I *LOVE* IT) Thu Feb 16 1989 11:21

    I need help please,
    
    I am running an LAVC with a uVAXII as the boot node and two diskless
    VS2000s as satellites.  The LAVC is running SDC VMS 5.1.  I installed
    SDC DECwindows and everything worked fine!!  OK, I shut down the
    VS2000s and DECnet on the bootnode, then installed the VAXimage
    Application Services (VAS) and the VAXimage Scanning Application
    (VSA) - no noticed errors.  I then attempted to boot the VS2000s,
    conversationally, specifying WINDOW_SYSTEM 1, and they come up as
    far as the system job terminates, but no window system!!
    
    I can login to the satellites, the mouse arrow comes up and I can
    move it around, but DECwindows never comes up.  When I do a show
    system, I see a process, _WSA1:, that looks like it is constantly
    running LOGINOUT.EXE.
    
    I also tried executing DECW$STARTUP from DCL and get another process,
    _WSA2:, acting the same!!
    
    I tried reinstalling DECwindows, same problem.  I tried reinstalling
    the two imaging products, same problem.
    
    Any suggestions would be helpful - I will be more than happy to
    supply any further information...
    
    Dead in the water,
    
    Dan
    

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226.1Is the server running?STAR::BMATTHEWSThu Feb 16 1989 11:435
Is there a DECW$SERVER process running? If so what state is it in, HIB? LEF?
Is there decw$server*.log files in sys$manager?
						Bill


226.2No and yesDIXIE1::SPRINGERInformation Overload - I *LOVE* ITThu Feb 16 1989 12:1030
    Bill,
    
    Thanks for such a quick response...
    
�   Is there a DECW$SERVER process running? If so what state is it in, HIB? LEF?
    
    No, no DECW$SERVER process.
    
�   Is there decw$server*.log files in sys$manager?

    Yes,
    
    DECW$SERVER_0_ERROR.LOG
    
    $ ty decw$server_0_error.log
    Hello, this is the X server
    Dixmain address=22dfa
    $
    
    and DECW$SERVER_0_OUTPUT.LOG
    
    $ ty decw$server_0_output.log
    can not get input buffer
    $
    
    Hope this helps...
    
    Dan
    

226.3Let's see the show device/fullSTAR::BMATTHEWSThu Feb 16 1989 12:264
Do a show device/full for all G* devices and TT* devices and post the
results here.
						Bill

226.4A6INTR::SOCHAOut in the FieldThu Feb 16 1989 13:225
	I have seen similar problems if you do not have enough GBLPAGES or
GBLSECTIONS for DECW$STARTUP to run properly.

Kevin

226.5no such device availDIXIE1::SPRINGERGrace Under PressureThu Feb 16 1989 13:2413
    Ok,
    
    $ sh dev/full G*
    %SYSTEM-W-NOSUCHDEV, no such device available
    $ sh dev/full TT*
    %SYSTEM-W-NOSUCHDEV, no such device available
    $
    
    Thanks,
    
    Dan
    

226.6Global Page infoDIXIE1::SPRINGERGrace Under PressureThu Feb 16 1989 13:3010
    re .4
    
    GBLSECTIONS = 300
    GBLPAGES    = 20700
    
    Do these look ok?
    
    Thanks,
    Dan

226.7Try sho dev without the "*"STAR::BMATTHEWSFri Feb 17 1989 05:289
    
    $ sh dev/full G*
		Sorry, remove the * in the above

    $ sh dev/full TT*

   Sorry, remove the * in the above

226.8sh dev/full...DIXIE1::SPRINGERGrace Under PressureFri Feb 17 1989 08:4326
    Ok,
    
    $sh dev/full G
    
    Device GCA0: is online, record-oriented device, carriage control, shareable.
  
    Error count                        0    Operations completed              0
    Owner process                     ""    Owner UIC                  [SYSTEM]
    Owner process ID            00000000    Dev Prot S:RWLP,O:RWLP,G:RWLP,W:RWLP
    Reference count                    0    Default buffer size              80
     
    $ sh dev/full TT
    
    Terminal RTA1:, device type VT200 Series, is online, mounted, record-oriented                   
        device, carriage control.                                                                   
    
    Error count                        0    Operations completed              0
    Owner process               "SYSTEM"    Owner UIC                  [SYSTEM]
    Owner process ID            20402AB0    Dev Prot            S:RWLP,O:,G:,W:
    Reference count                    2    Default buffer size              80

    $
    
    Hope this helps,
    Dan

226.9More show device commandsSTAR::BMATTHEWSFri Feb 17 1989 13:144
Sorry, One more try. Could you do a show device/full tta0:
and a show device/full tta1:
					Bill

226.10getting desperate!!!!ODIXIE::SPRINGERGrace Under PressureFri Feb 17 1989 14:2734
    Ok,
    
    $ sh dev/full tta0:
    
    Terminal TTA0:, device type LN03, is online, unit timed out, record-oriented
        device, carriage control, device is spooled through an intermediate device,
        operations being cancelled.
    
    Error count                2    Operations completed                      4
    Owner process             ""    Owner UIC                          [SYSTEM]
    Owner process ID    00000000    Dev Prot                    S:RWLP,O:,G:,W:
    Reference count            0    Default buffer size                      80
                                                           
    $ sh dev/full tta1:
    
    Terminal TTA1:, device type unknown, is online, record-oriented device, carriage
        control.
    
    Error count                0    Operations completed                      2
    Owner process             ""    Owner UIC                          [SYSTEM]
    Owner process ID    00000000    Dev Prot                    S:RWLP,O:,G:,W:
    Reference count            0    Default buffer size                      80
    
    $
       
    Right now I have the TTA0: port used for my LN03R printer, nothing on 
    TTA1: or TTA2:, and TTA3: is being used for an asynch DECnet connection.
    
    I hope this helps, I am really getting into a bind because I *must* get
    an imaging demo together very soon...thanks for your efforts.
    
    Still dead in the water with DECwindows,
    Dan

226.11How can you plug the LN03R into the mouse cable port?IO::MCCARTNEYJames T. McCartney III - DTN 381-2244 ZK02-2/N24Fri Feb 17 1989 14:4623
How did you attach the LN03R to the VS2000? The 2000 has a special comm
connector which replaces the normal serial lines and converts the ports 
for TTA0: and TTA1: into the workstation keyboard and mouse ports 
respectively. The console port is on TTA2: (i recall) and TTA3: is the 
full 25 pin comm connector. For more information see the DECW$DEVICE 
startup file where it configures this:

$ if VS2000
$ then
$   if (f$getdvi("GCA0","STS") .AND. 16) .eq. 0 then sysgen reload gcbdriver.exe
$   decw$device_type :==                VS2000
$   decw$keyboard :==                   tta0:
$   decw$pointer  :==                   tta1:
$   decw$xsize_in_pixels :==            1024
$   decw$ysize_in_pixels :==            864
$   decw$color :==                      FALSE
$ endif

In short, check your connections, and make sure you are specifying the correct 
ports in you setup files.

James

226.12Hope this is still the same answer!ODIXIE::SPRINGERGrace Under PressureFri Feb 17 1989 15:2915
    Refer back to 226... The configuration for the BOOT NODE is
    a MicroVAX II with the SATELLITE NODES as VS2000. The LN03
    is connected to the TTA0: on the MICROVAX II and the
    communications line is on the TTA3: on the MICROVAX II.
    
    There are no printers or comm lines connected to the VS200s.
    Sorry if I misled you!
    
    Do the port definitions for the startup file for the BOOT node
    affect the way the SATELLITE  nodes are booted and configured?
    
    (DECwindows is STILL not up...)
    
    Dan

226.13Am I on the right track??ODIXIE::SPRINGERGrace Under PressureFri Feb 17 1989 15:4717
    hmmmm,
    
    So what is happening is, the SYSTARTUP_V5.COM file is executing
    when the satellite boots (because it resides in SYS$COMMON).
    Within this startup file I have attempted to set TTA0: on the
    boot node up for a printer port, not thinking that this will
    affect the corresponding port on the satellite nodes!!  This
    must be screwing up the DECW$DEVICE command procedure.
    
    Sounds like the port definitions should be node specific...right??
    
    Geez...I guess there is more to this system management stuff
    than I thought :')
    
    Not a system manager, but proudly becoming one,
    Dan

226.14A6INTR::SOCHAOut in the FieldFri Feb 17 1989 16:195
Use NODE::TTA0: instead of TTA0: (where NODE is the nodename of your bootname)
throughout your system startup files.

Kevin

226.15Thanks...it works!!ODIXIE::SPRINGERGrace Under PressureFri Feb 17 1989 17:267
    That works!!!!!!!
    
    Many, many, many thanks!!!!
    
    Feeling much relieved,
    Dan