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Conference bulova::decw_jan-89_to_nov-90

Title:DECWINDOWS 26-JAN-89 to 29-NOV-90
Notice:See 1639.0 for VMS V5.3 kit; 2043.0 for 5.4 IFT kit
Moderator:STAR::VATNE
Created:Mon Oct 30 1989
Last Modified:Mon Dec 31 1990
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3726
Total number of notes:19516

85.0. "X11 on Ultrix 2.2???" by GIDDAY::KOTWAL (Ain't no flies of us - Mate!) Tue Jan 31 1989 23:26

    I know this is likely to be a strange question, but here goes...
    
    I have a chap with a Vaxstation 2000, running Ultrix 2.2.
    
    He has a copy of X11 rel 3 from MIT.  When he installs it on the
    machine, he gets the cursors, etc, but no terminal window.
    
    Will X11 run on 2.2, or does he need to install UWS 2.0, which is
    currently not available down here?
    
    If it will run, what could possible problems be?
    
    Thanks,
    
    Rashid.
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85.1should work with some tinkering...MTA::GRAHAMthe beat is tough and jazzyWed Feb 01 1989 00:5035
    
    Should work with ULTRIX v2.2, but why not upgrade to v3.0 -
    3.0 has plenty of good stuff like VM improvements.
    
    Anyway, here is what the "chap" needs to do - 2 options.
    
    - Can start X11 from /etc/rc using xdm. (ala session manager).
      the xdm utility from MIT uses /usr/lib/xdm/xdm-config as its
      default startup file, but it can be specified with the -config
      command line option, specifying the names of the various data
      files, default parameters, startup and shutdown programs needed
      to run.  The use of xdm is clearly explained in the MIT X11R3
      Installation Guide.  Make sure "/usr/bin/X11/xdm &" is inserted
      in the /etc/rc or /etc/rc.local file when running in default mode.
      "/usr/bin/X11/xdm -config /usr/local/lib/xdm/xdm-config &" would
      be the command if the files are stored in a user-defined directory
      like, /usr/local/lib/xdm.
    
      - Or you could start xterm window from /etc/ttys with something like:
     
      tty0"/usr/bin/X11/xterm -L -geometry 80x24+195+275 -display :0"\
      xterm off window="/usr/bin/X11/X :0"
      
      "\" is only a line continuation sign in the above example.
      The above line is normally placed at the bottom of the /etc/ttys
      file.  
     
      You need to restart the server by signalling init to read the
      /etc/ttys  with " kill -HUP 1" or rebooting the system after you
      edit the /etc/ttys file.
    
    good luck,
    
    			      					kris..
85.2Haven't got UWS 2.0 yet....GIDDAY::KOTWALAin't no flies of us - Mate!Wed Feb 01 1989 17:217
    Thanks, Kris
    
    At the moment it is just a loan machine, and in any case, we don't
    have SDC UWS 2.0 yet to give him....
    
    Rashid.
85.3Well, that didn't work :-)GIDDAY::KOTWALAin't no flies of us - Mate!Wed Feb 01 1989 23:0734
    Kris,  the stuff you suggested does not seem to make a difference....
    
    This is what he has done, maybe you could shed some more light on
    it.
    
    When Xqdss server starts it shows the X cursor, but on a black
    background rather than the Grey stipple that is supposed to appear.
    
    If he uses a startup procedure that initiates a "uwm" process, then
    the X cursor changes to left arrow when the mouse button is pressed,
    but the menu it is supposed to point at does not appear.
    
    Any startup procedure that tries to get a window (xterm, xclock,
    xlogo, etc.) start that process, but no window shows up -- instead
    the Xqdss process start consuming CPU time rapidly.
    
    Other details...
    
    -  Installed direct from MIT distribution without apparaent problems.
    -  installed official patches fix1-fix7
    -  installed same software onto Suns, without problems - so know
       what behaviour should be like.
    -  altered the value of DMS_BUFSIZ for the sd driver of Ultrix as
       suggested in the qdss writeup.
    
    He suspects some oversight in his setup, or a particular problem
    with h/w or Ultrix.
    
    Any other ideas?????
    
    Thanks
    
    Rashid.
85.4ENXIO::thomasThe Code WarriorWed Feb 01 1989 23:333
Xqdss??  Is he running a VS2000 with the 4 (or 8) plane accelerator board???
If it's just a monochrome, he should be using Xqvss.
85.5Driver changesGIDDAY::KOTWALAin't no flies of us - Mate!Mon Feb 06 1989 17:4712
    He is running a colour monitor...
    
    He just got a reply from some bod @ MIT, who told him that some
    driver changes were necessary if using vanilla Ultrix 2.2 with X11.
    
    As he is going to get the stuff, it's *his* problem.  Anyway, it's
    not supported I guess.
    
    Thanks for your help.
    
    Rashid.