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Conference bulova::decw_jan-89_to_nov-90

Title:DECWINDOWS 26-JAN-89 to 29-NOV-90
Notice:See 1639.0 for VMS V5.3 kit; 2043.0 for 5.4 IFT kit
Moderator:STAR::VATNE
Created:Mon Oct 30 1989
Last Modified:Mon Dec 31 1990
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3726
Total number of notes:19516

65.0. "What hardware is required, anyway?" by JAWS::STRYKER (RALLY as a backend CASE product) Mon Jan 30 1989 13:54

    I'm sure this was covered in the old notes file.  I apologize for
    having just starting getting into this topic, but...
    
    I'd like a (somewhat) difinitive answer on what workstation hardware is
    required to run an application under DECWindows.  Some people in my
    group have heard that a VS2000 will do the job, others hear that
    it requires a PVAX.  I've heard VS2000 will do it, but it's too
    slow for most people's patience.
    
    Let me explain the situation.  I'm in an MIS group that supports
    Channels Marketing.  We're trying to set up a lab environment for
    the marketing users to build graphic overheads.  We've heard that
    VAXSight will do the job, but we know the EPIC stuff is coming along
    too.  We don't want to buy some hardware and have it be useless
    when DECWindows and EPIC hits the streets (i.e. SDC V1.0). 

    So I guess I'm looking for recommendations, first on what's REQUIRED,
    and next on what's RECOMMENDED.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Stew

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65.1VS2000s are okCVG::THOMPSONNotes? What's Notes?Mon Jan 30 1989 14:097
	A 6 meg VS2000 was working very well for me. I did prefer to run
	somethings on an 8550 with the display on the VS2000. Now that I've
	got 14 meg on the VS2000 I don't run near as much on the 8550. I'm
	pretty fussy but performance is ok by me.

			Alfred

65.26MB VS2000 works here tooAGBEAR::HORNERA.G.Bear, Low tech teddy bearMon Jan 30 1989 17:349
    I'm running on a 6MB VS2000 also.  I had to experiment with limits on
    working sets, and enable very mild and gradual working set decrementing,
    but after this, things work quite well.  Response is usually quite
    snappy, and I can keep a 3000 to 3500 page freelist to handle most of
    the paging.  I usually have about 6 applications going at any one time,
    but only one of them using heavy CPU time.

                 Dave

65.3LESLIE::LESLIEAndy ��� Leslie, CSSE / VMSTue Jan 31 1989 01:073
    I have a 6mb VS2000 running some comms LP's. As a result I run with
    1-600 free pages and am waiting for my 12 mb memory board to arrive.

65.4See note 13.3 for lots more information on this questionKOBAL::GOODMichael GoodTue Jan 31 1989 10:291
65.5(un)supported display?TIAMAT::BELANGERThe obvious is so confusingWed Feb 01 1989 11:1712
    
    	I have a VS2000-GPX with a prototype high-resolution monochrome
    display (VR419) called a KAPRI (image II).  Currently VWS X4.1 supports
    this display but I can't seem to get DECwindows to run on it.  Since
    DECwindows is the wave of the future it would be nice to be able
    to use it on this machine.  Does DECwindows support this machine?
    If not, are there plans to support it?
    
    Thanx,
    
    Jon. Belanger

65.6NopeDECWIN::FISHERBurns Fisher 381-1466, ZKO3-4/W23Wed Feb 01 1989 12:066
Last I knew, the Kapri was a limited-production special for one particular
customer.  The VWS adaptation was done by SWS.  Since it is not a production
system, DECwindows has no plans to support it as a base product.

Burns

65.7STAR::KLEINSORGEshockwave riderWed Feb 01 1989 18:0714
    
    The Image-II (aka Kapri) was a "special" workstation built explicitly
    as a high-performance monochrome imaging system (it replaces microfiche
    readers).  And the initial work and support was done by SWS in
    Syracuse NY for the cusomer it was designed for.  The V4.1 release will
    (or should) have merged that work into the standard VWS distribution.
    It is unclear what the future status of the Kapri will be.
    
    It's a neat system in a lot of respects, 100dpi 19" monitor, image
    scaling, rotation, clipping and decompression (CCITT level 3 I think)
    in hardware.
    
    

65.8Can anyone list all the systems?28042::SMITHThu May 18 1989 12:496
	Does anyone have a list of all the workstations (old & new) which
	will run DECwindows?  We're trying to get 4 systems of any (VMS) type 
	which will run them.

	/Tom

65.9PSW::WINALSKIPaul S. WinalskiFri May 19 1989 00:1316
I'll try:

	VAXstation II
	VAXstation II/GPX
	VAXstation 2000
	VAXstation 2000/GPX
	VAXstation 3100
	VAXstation 3500
	VAXstation 3520
	VAXstation 3540
	DECstation 3100

No doubt I've missed a few.

--PSW

65.1060428::QUODLINGJust a Coupl'a days....Fri May 19 1989 01:388
        You missed the Vaxstation II/RC  :-)
        
        It is probably easier to say that it won't work on Vaxstation
        100's, Vaxstation 1's, and Vaxstation 8000's.
        
        q
        

65.1125796::MCLEMANJeff McLemanFri May 19 1989 08:498
Re: -1

It won't work on a DECstation 78 either. :-)

Jeff

(DECstation 78, the first cmos PDP8 in a WPS workstation)