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Conference bulova::decw_jan-89_to_nov-90

Title:DECWINDOWS 26-JAN-89 to 29-NOV-90
Notice:See 1639.0 for VMS V5.3 kit; 2043.0 for 5.4 IFT kit
Moderator:STAR::VATNE
Created:Mon Oct 30 1989
Last Modified:Mon Dec 31 1990
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3726
Total number of notes:19516

14.0. "Mail Distribution Lists" by CUJO::MEIER (Systems Engineering Resident...) Thu Jan 26 1989 12:39

    Would someone like to outline the proper way to setup
    DECW Mail Distribution lists...
    
    	The technique of using;
    
    		Define name NM%NODE::USER,NM%NODE::USER
    			
    				or

    		Define name "@Device:[dir]file.dis"

    	Doesn't seem to work, either method does not translate
    	properly to get valid node::user names.
    		
    
    			(VMS  5.1 SDC)
    			(DECW 5.1 SDC)
    
    	Thanks....   

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14.1Scope of logical?DECWIN::FISHERBurns Fisher 381-1466, ZKO3-4/W23Thu Jan 26 1989 12:5014
    Well, it certainly works fine if you
    
    	$Define name "node::device:[dir]file.dis"
    
    and then refer to it as @name.  In regular VMS mail, I have done as
    you suggested, defining name as @filename, and then referring to name
    in mail, but I have not tried it in DECW mail.  Are you sure the
    scope of you logical is right?  I.e. it is defined on the right
    machine and job?  The mail client itself must be able to see it
    whereever it is running from.
    
    Burns
    

14.2Also don't...YUCATN::LASTOVICAain't juggling till there's 3 upThu Jan 26 1989 19:085
    and worse (I know I ought to QAR this), try DEFINE/SYS foobar
    @sys$manager:some-file-that-ain't-there and then attempt to send to it. 
    Mail goes into a loop creating empty error boxes.  Yuch!  (and I found
    this out trying to help Al!)

14.3...with this scope/environmentCUJO::MEIERSystems Engineering Resident...Thu Jan 26 1989 20:3110
    
    	This is getting interesting...  Norm's example does do bad things,
    	in a Local Server, Remote Server, Remote Session Manager...
    
    	I'll make more attempts in the morning, it is important to
    	note that the scope of the logical name is GROUP-wide on
    	all the cluster nodes.  The logical names work via the
	standard DCL MAIL....  More to come... or should Norm and
    	myself combine this as a QAR ?

14.4GOSOX::RYANDECwindows MailFri Jan 27 1989 08:4837
	re .0, .3: 

>    	The technique of using;
>    
>    		Define name NM%NODE::USER,NM%NODE::USER
>    			
>    				or
>
>    		Define name "@Device:[dir]file.dis"
>
>    	Doesn't seem to work, either method does not translate
>    	properly to get valid node::user names.

>    	I'll make more attempts in the morning, it is important to
>    	note that the scope of the logical name is GROUP-wide on
>    	all the cluster nodes.  The logical names work via the
>	standard DCL MAIL....  More to come... or should Norm and
>    	myself combine this as a QAR ?

	How doesn't it work? Exactly what happens when you try it? How
	and where are you defining the logical and how are you starting
	DECW$MAIL?

	re .2:

>    and worse (I know I ought to QAR this), try DEFINE/SYS foobar
>    @sys$manager:some-file-that-ain't-there and then attempt to send to it. 
>    Mail goes into a loop creating empty error boxes.  Yuch!  (and I found
>    this out trying to help Al!)

	We know there's a problem with trying to send to a non-existent
	distribution list. But normal logicals work fine, at least here
	(I've got a logical for my wife's account, defined /GROUP, and
	it works fine).

	Mike

14.5more information from Al MeierYUCATN::LASTOVICAain't juggling till there's 3 upFri Jan 27 1989 13:189
This is from Al, I'm not the one with the distribution list/logical problem!

try defining a logical to point to a distribution list but put the "@" in the
logical name definition (so you send mail to DIST rather than to @DIST).  

also when sys$scratch is defined as a search list, and the first directory spec
is invalid (device not mounted or something), then the acknowlegement window
presents the errors in reverse order of the search list.