| Title: | Topics of Interest to Women | 
| Notice: | V3 is closed. TURRIS::WOMANNOTES-V5 is open. | 
| Moderator: | REGENT::BROOMHEAD | 
| Created: | Thu Jan 30 1986 | 
| Last Modified: | Fri Jun 30 1995 | 
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    	Hi,
    	My name's Alice Turner, and I am new to Digital, in Reading, and
    just yesterday I came across the Womannotes conference for the first
    time.
    	I thought this would be an interesting exercise for a note: what
    does "feminism" mean to you? It seems to me that the definitions of
    feminism and feminist ideals are personal things, related largely -
    though not totally - to personal situations. For instance, it seems to
    me that (and I don't want to offend anyone here) many lesbians seem to
    believe that it is impossible to understand the view of feminists
    without being lesbian. And does one have to be a woman to be a
    feminist? What about John Stoltenberg? Also, I wondered how different the 
    American viewpoint would be. I do not know whether I would call myself a 
    feminist, but I do know that many of my views are regarded as feminist.
    	Perhaps, tomorrow, I will look up some English dictionary
    definitions to include here. I also intend to look up English
    dictionary and legal definitions of rape for the "what is rape" note.
    	Anyway, looking forward to reading your opinions!
    	Alice T.
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| 933.1 | Women Hold Up Half the Sky | BUSY::KATZ | Coming From a Different Place | Tue Jul 23 1991 08:02 | 1 | 
| 933.2 | SA1794::CHARBONND | forget the miles, take steps | Tue Jul 23 1991 08:42 | 24 | |
|     As one who only wears the label, 'individualist', I like to think
    that we all should be working for a world where no individual
    is discriminated against because of their color, creed, gender,
    orientation, etc. I'd like to see the movement for the rights and
    dignity of the individual subsume all others. I sometimes think that 
    all these lesser -isms are acting against each other and the universal 
    need for freedom. However, human nature being what it is, and the 
    battlefield being so _damn_ big, people tend to work best with others 
    whose interests and priorities are closest to their own. So, some people 
    and groups may focus on the fight for rights as A, others for B, yet 
    others as C. IMO this okay _until_ one group insists that _their_ 
    agenda is the only important one. Or worse, when they start working 
    _against_ the rights of others. Then I can no longer in good conscience 
    actively support _them_. (Of course, I still support their rights,
    it's their agenda which I may oppose. Like the ACLU supporting
    freedom of speech for the Nazis.)
    
    (As the philosopher said, 'There can be no such thing as the right 
    to violate the rights of another.')
    
    This is why I a) support most of the goals of feminism but b) don't 
    call myself a feminist. I'm a 'people-ist' ;-)
    
    Dana
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| 933.3 | pointers | GNUVAX::BOBBITT | divided sky...the wind blows high | Tue Jul 23 1991 09:13 | 27 | 
|     
    see also:
    
    Womannotes-V1
    369 - who is not a feminist
    511 - feminist consciousness
    750 - feminism? help
    
    Womannotes-V2
    178 - what is a feminist
    475 - men as feminists
    651 - the myths of feminism
    874 - how has feminism changed your world
    997 - a new direction for feminism
    
    Womannotes-V3 (this file)
    43 - feminism and the feminist agenda
    100 - male role in feminism
    403 - putting feminism where my mouth is
    759 - real feminists
    
    Euro-Woman (file currently unavailable)
    17 - feminist? what does it mean?
    
    
    -Jody
    
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| 933.5 | my own working def... | BTOVT::THIGPEN_S | they say there's peace in sleep | Wed Jul 24 1991 11:12 | 17 | 
|     my feminism is about expanding the choices available to women -- and men,
    but with women as its primary focus.  feminism is not just "out with
    the old, in with the new".  
    
    See also what Dana said.
    
    I think feminism is changing the rules and that is scary to both women
    and men.  People often react to change with polarized positions.  So my
    feminism is also trying to be patient, to defuse the fears we have
    about eachother, so that positive change can come for all without (in
    the end) being wholly negative for others.  I don't believe that in the
    end, enhancing _my_ life at _your_ expense is sustainable.  The biggest
    part of the problems faced by feminism is to convey the benefits to
    those who see no benefit from feminism for themselves.
    
    Sara
    
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| 933.6 | Oxford Shorter's definition | RDGENG::LIBRARY | A wild and an untamed thing | Wed Jul 31 1991 09:03 | 5 | 
|     As promised, a definition from an English Dictionary - the Shorter
    Oxford Dictionary, 1973:
    
    "Feminism: 1. The qualities of women (rare). 2. Advocacy of the claims
    and rights of women."
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