Conference turris::womannotes-v3

    
    Good topic d - just to add a question that I'd been meaning to
    ask for ages.....
    
    What albums by which artists do you consider to be "lesbian" music?
    Not that the performer has to be gay, but music that's popular
    in the gay wmn's community....music that's a dead giveaway when
    you hear it on a wmns car cassette player.....
    
    'gail                                         

    Why isn't any "Lesbian" music rock'n'roll?  (or is it?)  Why does it
    all seem to be folk music?  Why should wanting to sleep with other
    women make a woman prefer folk music to rock?  Or does it?  Is there
    any rock music that is popular in Lesbian bars?
    
    Lorna
    

	Lorna, there are plenty of lesbian rockers, but most of
	them are not publicly out of the closet.  I nearly wrote
	"If <lesbian rocker> ain't rock music, I don't know what
	is", but realized I'd be outing her, and I won't do that.

	Hey Abigail, your question has good timing.  Remember the
	surprise I mentioned ... ?  Your auto will soon be one of
	the 'sure giveaways'.  =8-)

	Rock music popular at the Wildrose, a lesbian bar here in
	Seattle:  Sin�ad O'Connor, Melissa Etheridge, Indigo Girls
	(Amy's songs are definitely rock oriented), Talking Heads,
	B52's, U2 ...
	
	Carla

    
    culled from 'women composers- the lost tradition found' by
    diane peacock jezic, feminist press-cuny, new york 1988
    
hildegard of bingen (1098-1179)
-abbess, litugical songs, predates leonin

francesca caccini (1587-1640)
-singer, early florentine opera

babara strozzi (1619-1664)
-venetian, madrigals and cantatas

isabella leonarda (1620-1704)
-ursuline nun, mostly sacred vocal music, some instrumental chamber music

elisabeth-claude jacquet de la guerre (1666-1729)
-prodigy, ward of Louis XIV, harpsichord works, operas and ballets

anna amalia, princess of prussia (1723-1787)
-sister of frederick the great, chamber music

anna amalia, duchess of saxe-weimar (1739-1807)
-niece of frederick the great, chamber music and 'singspiels'

maria theresa von paradis (1759-1824)
-ward of maria theresa, blind, singer and organist, concerti and opera

louise reichardt (1779-1826)
-singer, songwriter

fanny mendelssohn hensel (1805-1847)
-sister of felix, pianist, songs, chamber music, piano music

josephine lang (1815-1880)
-singer, songwriter

clara wieck schumann (1819-1896)
-spouse of robert, virtuoso pianist, songs, piano and chamber music, concerti

pauline viardot-garcia (1821-1910)
-singer, songwriter

jeanne-louise dumont farrenc (1804-1875)
-pianist, piano and chamber music, 3 symphonies

louise pauline marie heritte-viardot (1841-1919)
-daughter of pauline v-g, chamber and piano music, songs

cecile chaminade (1857-1944)
-pianist, prolific composer: flute, orchestra, piano, chamber, opera and ballet

lili boulanger (1893-1918)
-sister of nadia, winner of 'prix de rome', opera, vocal, orchestral, chamber

amy marcy cheney beach (1867-1944)
-american, virtuoso pianist, orchestral ('gaelic' symphony), songs and piano

rebecca clarke (1886-1979)
-virtuoso violist, songs, chamber music
[i have played some of her sonata for viola and piano]
 
katherine hoover (b. 1937)
-flautist, chamber music

ellen taaffe zwilich (b. 1939)
-violinist, pulitzer prize for symphony #1, also chamber and vocal

ruth schonthal (b. 1924)
-pianist, all major forms

barbara kolb (b. 1939)
-clarinettist, winner american 'prix de rome', chamber, vocal, electronic

marga richter (b. 1926)
-pianist, all major forms

judith lang zaimont (b. 1945)
-pianist, all major forms

thea musgrave (b. 1928)
-opera

joan tower (b. 1938)
-winner graenmeyer (sp?) prize

libby larsen (b. 1950)
-chamber music, opera

    I suppose this means I'm not the only person in the world to have a
    recording of hymns by Abbess Hildegard? Good!
    
    For some good rockin', local-to-Boston, LIVE music that will be of
    interest to Lesbians (not exclusively, by any means), keep your eyes
    open for gigs by Miss Bliss. They've played Johnny D's in Somerville
    a few times.
    
    For general Women's Music, I can't imagine a better source than the
    Ladyslipper catalog. 
    
    Cheers,
    Chuck

Lorna, I think main reason most "women's music" is folk and not rock has
more to do with the differences between the folk industry and the rock
industry.

For one thing, rock tends to be groups of people, folk is more likely to
be an individual.  Therefore to be a Lesbian rock group, you would have to
find a lot more Lesbians.  Also, rock is more "popular" - it centers around
groups that make it "big" and are in the main-stream. Folk isn't in the
mainstream in the first place, and there isn't such a push to be a "shooting
star."  Rock is mostly men, anyway!  The percentage of women is pretty low,
the percentage of Lesbians is gonna be *really* low.

Folk is traditionally very political, too - and lyrics oriented. Combined,
that means that folk is often more of a forum for women to say feminist things.


There certainly are rock artists that are very pipular in the Lesbian
community.  Indigo Girls, Mellisa Ethridge, Suzanne Vega, Sinead O'Connor,
Madonna are some of the women they play a lot at the bars and such...

D!

    MADONNA!!!! :-) :-) ;-) %-) %-) :-) :I) :-0 :-0
    
    Miss Bliss will be performing at Venus de Milo next month, April ??
    I'll have to look up the date again.
    
    "Justify my love...my love..."
    
    Laurie

    Oh, this :I) BTW is someone lying on their back with a weight 
    extended directly above their face. I guess that's how it would look.
    I'll have to try it sometime and let someone take a picture of it to
    verify this :-)
    
    
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    Ah, that's someone holding weights in each hand.
    
    Ok,OK..so I'm weird :-) 
    
    Laurie 
        

    
    RE .3
    
    Carla - it arrived yesterday!
    YYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)
    My ears were dancing all the way to work.
    I'll mail ya....
    'gail
    

    That's okay, Laurie, you can be wierd, I still love you!  (*8
    
    
    
    
    'gail
    
    
    dancing ears!   YES!  I love it!

    
    see also:
    
    Womannotes-V1 (soon to be available)
    33 - women's music
    
    Womannotes-V2 (ditto)
    97 - women's music revisited
    444 - studio red top - support for women musicians
    
    -Jody
    
    

	Oh, and if you want to see a lesbian rock (and folk and 
	blues) musician in the flesh (hubba hubba), see Elaine
	Townsend when she plays Crone's Harvest 11.May.

	Shamelessly plugging my friend,

	Carla
	

    Palindromicly speaking.
    
    						Ann B.

>>> That's okay, Laurie, you can be wierd, I still love you!  (*8
    
    :-) <blushX10> :-) You're so sweet E!
    
    I hope Abe the ape is behaving himself! On second thought it would
    probably be fun if he didn't ;-)
    
    Now what was the topic here again? Uh, I think I've lost my mind. Oh no
    there it goes up to the thrid floor... E catch it! Oh no, it's gone
    past your grip and it's caught in Mary's ceiling fan :-) Quick Mary,
    do whatever you do to "turn on" that fan ;-)
    
    Laurie

    >>           <<< Note 739.16 by IE0010::MALING "Mirthquake!" >>>
    >>                  -< Looks like I've got a fan club >-
    
    
    
    'strue!  'strue!  Of course, it's also a very bad pun, but 'strue.
    
    
    E Grace who still has banana slug hugs all over her office, and now has
    banana slugging dinosaurs and a sad and blue dinosaur too!

    This notice came to me from the Miss Bliss mailing list:
    
    Augusta Furnace at T.T. the Bear's on Wed., April 10, 10-11 PM.
    (T.T.t.B's is at 10 Brookline St., Cambridge, MA)
    
    The flyer says Augusta Furnace features "former members of Miss Bliss",
    which would sound like Miss Bliss is no more, except the reply back a 
    few said they had an April gig of their own. Anyone know the scoop?
    
    If anyone is interested in researching this, I'd be happy to hand over
    some "$3 admission with this ticket" coupons from the flyer.
    
    Chuck

    Sweet Honey in the Rock -
     has a song that I was listening to.
    
    The words go something like, "For every woman who ever loved a woman.
    Mother, Sister, Daughter, Lover."
    
    I finally found all of their tapes at Tower under a section they called
    Women's music.  There were oodles of tapes there that may pertain to
    this topic. In case there is continued interest.
    
       ... But you are right... they are Folk/Spiritual singers.
    
    Cindi
    P.S.- I originally was looking for -
    "More than a Paycheck", and "I'm Gona Stand".
    Good stuff.

    >"More than a Paycheck"
    I heard this song last week, and was blown away by it.
    Do you know which tape it's on?

    Caselbury and Dupree (who I heard last weekend - terrific stuff!) is in
    some way related to Sweet Honey in the Rock, but i can't remember how. 
    One of them is the daughter or sister of the other, or something like
    that...?
    
    D!

    Re: .20-
    I purchased ALL of their tapes so that I would not have to go through
    the agony of finding them again (It wasn't easy tracking them down).  
    
    I think it is on "We All Every One" or something like that.  I will
    go home tonight and verify it.  I will post the confirming note
    in the morning.
    
    Re: .21-
    Do you imagine Caselbury & Dupree are the same genre/style? (I just heard
    my credit card scream..."Oh no... not again")
    
    Cindi

    Caselbury and Dupree seem to be quite a mix of styles - I have listened
    to more of their stuff than Sweet Honey, and liked it better, but yeah,
    I would say more or less the same genre.  But you might want to borrow
    a tape before you go out and spend all your money on their albums, as I
    am not an expert on either group...
    
    C&D's stuff had a lot of political overtones - they sing about racism
    and sexism and war and stuff like that.
    
    When I saw them last Saturday there were four members in the band - one
    one acoustic guitar (Caselbury), one on random rhythm instruments like
    washboard, morocco's and those jugs with beads on the outside (Dupree),
    one on electric guitar and one on bongos and "regular" drums. 
    
    D!

    "More than a Paycheck"-
    is from the album, "We All... Everyone Of Us".
    It is on the Flying Fish Records, Inc. lable. Copy. 1983.
    
    ---------
    
    Re: -1 
    C&D do sound a lot like Sweet Honey.  For me, the Spirituals and
    descriptions of African History an Principles in song are the most
    pleasing.  While I can not deny the fact that much of their political
    work is not in error IMO, it is hard to listen to sometimes in the
    setting of your home.  At the rallies/meetings where I originally
    heard them, however, they were amazingly apt.
    
    I will try and sample C&D though.
    
    Cindi

I saw Sweet Honey for the first time last weekend at the Clearwater
Festival near New York City and really loved their show.  By the way,
this is a great festival and it is the most accepting/supportive of
difference envirorment I've ever seen!  

    
    2 Nice Girls is (are? =8-)) playing at the Backstage in Seattle
    29.June, the night before Pride.  Whoop!  We're gonna have some
    queer queer fun!
    
    Carla
    

    
    If anyone has any tapes or CDs of Sweet Honey and/or
    Cassleberry-Dupree', and you're coming to the party tomorrow night,
    please bring them!!
    
    Justine

    I'm sorry, I did not see this until now...
    I could have at least have given them to 'Ren or someone if they 
    were going... 
    
    I've got to keep up better :-<
    Cindi