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Conference turris::womannotes-v3

Title:Topics of Interest to Women
Notice:V3 is closed. TURRIS::WOMANNOTES-V5 is open.
Moderator:REGENT::BROOMHEAD
Created:Thu Jan 30 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 30 1995
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1078
Total number of notes:52352

678.0. "Betrayal?" by TLE::D_CARROLL (get used to it!) Mon Jan 28 1991 14:40

    I really hate...feeling betrayed, especially when I am not even sure if
    the feeling of betrayal is rational.

    I was corresponding with a good friend I met over the net about my
    "love-troubles" with a certain person, "T", who is also on the net.  I
    have been talking about this with her off and on for about a month.  
    This weekend I saw T, and she mentioned that she and my net.friend with
    whom I have been pouring out my heart starting corresponding a couple
    of weeks ago.

    While I don't *know* that they have discussed me, it seems likely.  I
    looked at some of the old mail between my friend and I - and realized
    that this explains some things.  For instance, she recently started
    asking me pointed and seemingly confrontational/judgemental questions
    about me and T.  I couldn't figure it out at the time, but now I think
    they are probably a result of her getting T's side of the story and
    having opinions of her own about what's happening.

    While I recognize that maybe she is now a more *informed* listener,
    having heard both sides of the story, I still feel betrayed.  I was
    talking to her thinking of her as a sympathetic ear, who wasn't at all
    involved and therefore could provide an unbiased sounding board as well
    as allow me to vent some of my emotions.  

    It's not that I think she and T have anything romantic going, it is
    just that I thought she should have told me while going on about T in
    the third person that she had been communicating with her.  Now I feel
    like I can't talk to her about the situation at all, and that hurts
    because she has been a big help.  If I *knew* she was talking to T, I
    still would have talked to her, but I might not have said the things I
    did.

    On the other hand, part of me says I am just over-paranoid, and being
    unreasonable.  I don't know what to think.

    D!
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678.1FDCV06::HSCOTTLynn Hanley-ScottMon Jan 28 1991 15:275
    If she's that close a friend, perhaps you could write to her what
    you've written here. You did a good job of keeping most of it in the "I
    feel...." type of language, so it isn't terribly threatening or
    accusatory.
    
678.2ICS::STRIFEMon Jan 28 1991 15:328
    Unreasonable?  Paranoid?  Kinda rough on yourself aren't you?  D!, if I
    were you, I'd be asking many of the same questions that you're asking
    yourself.  And there may be some really simple benign reason(s) why
    your friend didn't mention that she had also been corressponding with
    T.  But, you aren't going to know unless you ask her.  Ask her and then
    make a decision as to whether or not you should feel betrayed.
    
    P
678.3R2ME2::PELLEGRINOBob PellegrinoMon Jan 28 1991 16:0820
Actually D, I don't think I would go out of my way to confront her about it
at all.  As we discussed before, regardless of what moral system she may be
in, the important thing is that it is not the same as yours.  Who would you
make feel better by talking with her about it?  How would you feel if T 
heard the details of this discussion?  

net.friend was a transitory help, but it doesn't seem that there is much
potential for a positive outcome if you press her for an explanation.  Some
things may be best complained about to your close friends, without sounding
shrill to the "offending" party.  One thing that I think I've *finally*
figured out is that before you bother complaining to a friend about an
action or a behavior, you have to at least trust them to make it worthwhile.
Otherwise it doesn't much matter what their response is then, and it may come
back to haunt you later.


Unless, of course, you think it is plausible that she had no idea this might
represent a breach of trust to you.  (boy, pretty cynical today, aren't I?)

--bob
678.4IE0010::MALINGMirthquake!Mon Jan 28 1991 19:4522
    D!
    
    I don't think its unreasonable to feel some anxiety in a situation like
    this.  I've been in similar situations.  The fact is, you really can't
    know what gets talked about when you're not there.  For me, that kind
    of doubt can cause all kinds of feelings and leave me not knowing how
    to feel.
    
    It sounds like you don't feel comfortable being as open with your
    net.friend as you have in the past.  You may want to let her know that
    you would prefer she not talk with T about the things you have shared
    with her, but if you're feeling really vulnerable you may not want to
    confront her with it.  It just depends how much you still trust her.
    
    If net.friend is getting judgemental, laying blame or taking sides,
    (and it's not your imagination) she may have lost her objectivity.
    In that case it really doesn't matter if she "talked" to T or not.
    
    IMHO it's best to assume that they did not discuss you unless proven
    otherwise.  But, its very natural to have doubts.
    
    Mary