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Conference turris::womannotes-v3

Title:Topics of Interest to Women
Notice:V3 is closed. TURRIS::WOMANNOTES-V5 is open.
Moderator:REGENT::BROOMHEAD
Created:Thu Jan 30 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 30 1995
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1078
Total number of notes:52352

673.0. "Anon note - Losing Trust" by WMOIS::B_REINKE (she is a 'red haired baby-woman') Fri Jan 25 1991 21:32

The following note is from a member of the file who wishes to
    remain anonymous
    
    Bonnie J
    =wn= comod
    
    _________________________________________________________________




I am currently going through a divorce which should be final in a couple
of months.  The divorce I'm handling fine......it's my friends and new
acquaintances that I'm having a hard time with.

It seems that my married friends are quickly disappearing, due to my not 
really having much in common with them anymore, which is understandable.  
I'm having more of a hard time understanding my single friends......I'm 
finding alot of falseness within people, which is strongly loosing my trust.

Getting back into the single field is really a major turn-off to me.....I was
rather looking forward to it not too long ago, as I was beginning to meet some
super people.  I met someone a couple months ago and we started seeing each 
other on a regular basis.....the things that were said to me and the reactions
I saw from him led me to believe that what was wanted was a closer 
relationship.  It took me quite some time to let the defenses down to the 
point of letting my feelings go.  When I did let my feelings go - I find out 
that the only feelings coming back, and was told that the only feelings coming
back was that of friendship and nothing more and that there never was anything
more than just a friendship.  Needless to say, it was quite the blow.  I guess
my main disappointment through all this was that he was not the person I 
thought he was.  I've always had an "up" attitude about people even through my
divorce, but what I'm finding is so disappointing and my trust is slipping 
away.  I have no desire to get involved anymore and I think its going to take 
some time before I do.  On the other hand, all this was quite eye opening and 
I feel I was pretty blind and naive - but I did learn a few things about 
myself and maybe thats good.

I have a hard time understanding why some people believe they have to take
advantage of other's and of other's feelings to satisfy their own personal 
needs.  Is there really any honesty anymore?
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673.1THEALE::THOMASHThe Devon DumplingMon Jan 28 1991 05:3636
	Hi,

	When I divorced, I found that my friends - most of whom were married,
	fell into two categories.

	One was that they were unsure of how to tackle the issue, they were
	embarrased to talk about it, and uncomfortable with the situation.

	I found this was the easiest situation to work with, by bringing the 
	situation up, and talking with them. I soon found my friendships here 
	back to "normal" fairly shortly ( and with a great deal of effort ).

	The other were "friends" who tried to get me to hire a lawyer, and fight
	for more than my ex and I had agreed between us. They just wouldn't 
	leave this alone. They tried to make me feel bitter about the situation.
	
	These people ceased being my friends, and I did feel a little "conned"
	at actually having accepted them as friends. 

	I found that I met new friends, as I was no longer constrained to 
	trying to fit both my and my ex's social life into 1 week. I had much 
	more time to concentrate on the things I really liked to do.
	And, being happy with yourself helps with new friendships.

	I did not "hit the singles scene" I did not want to start another 
	long-term relationship, just a mix of friends. People that I mixed 
	with understood this - with no prompting.

	Are you sure this person was deliberatley confusing you, or that you
	just misunderstood each other?

	Accept the friendship, and don't go looking for anything more. You may
	be pleasantly surprised one day.	

	Heather
673.2Build you FOR you!!!JURAN::GARDNERjustme....jacquiMon Jan 28 1991 09:3914
    When one's original relationship ends, one needs time and space
    to recover from the interactions that took place.  A time of 
    healing before one enters another one-to-one relationship.  This
    is to give the individual an opportunity to regroup and relax
    before embarking on the next stage of life for them.  This can
    take a period of time and needs not to be rushed, otherwise the
    indivdual ends up going round and round and in much pain.

    Bottom line, anon, take time for healing and recovery.  Learn 
    more about seeing yourself from you and not a reflection of 
    someone else.

    justme....jacqui 
673.3Perhpas Miscommunication Reared It's Head?!ICS::STRIFEMon Jan 28 1991 15:4217
    Well, I've been divorced just about forever but only recently (last
    couple of years) resumed the "mating game" after a long break.  What
    I've observed is that people are great at giving mixed messages -- find
    myself doing it from time to time -- about their feelings and what they
    want.  Because the messages are not clear, the other person tends to
    really hear only that part of the message that they want or need to
    hear.  No one intends to mislead anyone else.  It's just poor another
    example of poor communications.
    
    I think that jacqui makes a good point about giving yourself some time
    to heal.  Ending a long time relationship, whether it be a marriage or
    not, tends to leave people very vulnerable.  Let yourself heal and give
    yourself some time to understand what you want for you.  Then you'll be
    more likely to read the signals more clearly and to enter a
    relationship that is right for you.
    
    Polly
673.4"time heals" became a cliche because it's true "Time heals" became a cliche because it's trueCSSE32::RANDALLPray for peaceTue Jan 29 1991 15:3335
After I broke up with Kat's father years ago, I had a terrible time for
a long time with overreacting and interpreting any gesture of kindness 
or friendship as an invitation to intimacy.  I handled the practical
and financial difficulties of being a single parent all right, but
emotionally I was so desperate for comfort that it's a good thing I 
didn't meet a really sleazy untrustworthy man because I would have been
a sitting duck. 

 Looking back, I can see that the men I thought were so awful to use me 
and then not want me were basically decent sorts who, even if they were 
looking for a serious permanent relationship, were scared off by my 
desperation.  I didn't give myself a chance to heal from the pain of the
broken relationship or to grieve. I thought because the relationship had 
gone sour and I was much better off out of it, that meant there was nothing 
to mourn.  Wrong.  Besides the ending of the relationship itself I had to
grieve for the love that wsn't there, the dreams that never came true,
the future I envisioned and never reached.  Those are all very real losses. 

It took about four years.  That Christmas I really felt free. I felt 
that I could go on with my life, and that if I never met another man I
could still have a rewarding and joyful life.  Two weeks later I met my
present husband . . . a man who I would not have appreciated even six
months before.  

I guess all I'm saying is give it time.  Give yourself time, give your
heart time, give your life time to change and your head time to absorb
the events.  Give yourself time to grieve.  Perhaps you had different 
hopes, different dreams, different assumptions than I did -- it doesn't 
matter, really, what they were.  What matters is that they're gone now
and you have to find new ones.  But time really does heal.  I know it
sounds like a cliche, and sometimes time isn't the only thing you need.  
But it will pass.

--bonnie