Conference turris::womannotes-v3

    
    doesn't everyone?
    

Used to be that I found everyone to have their own beauty and did not see why
women needed to paint themselves for anyone...

Still feel that way for myself, but have learned to accept that other women have
other needs than I do...I think I was way past the GCF stage at one point in my
life...

Barb

    No.  I don't carry a lipstick.  I don't wear lipstick because it always
    gets on my teeth.  I carry a chapstick, though, and use it constantly.
    
    I guess I'm unprepared, in general.  I don't carry a pocketknife or a
    lipstick!
    
    Lorna
    

    maybe I'm just not used to it, but there are some things that look ok
    on other women but not on me.  Lipstick and nail polish are two of
    them.

    joe,
    
    aren't you going to share your shades with us?
    
    kelley,
    
    i do, actually.  i think it's commercial name is blistex. i go for the
    cherry flavor. 
    
    ~robin 

    no lipstick for me, thanks.  I do use an aloe gloss for protection,
    tho.
    
    sue

    A jar of Carmex or Eucerin here sits in the glove box of the car. 
    Since I don't carry the "dreaded purse", Just the pocket knife, wallet,
    and teabags create enough bulges in jeans and jackets.
    
    Meg

    yes, I carry a lipstick for those 'must wear' occasions when I'll be
    presenting to people who won't take me seriously without it. It's in a
    goes-with-everything shade called 'Cacao' -- and I've been carrying the
    same one for 5 years [yes, 5]
    
    Also I carry my wonderful 'lip goo' or lip conditioner in a tiny jar.
    This I use all the time and buy 2 or 3 at a time ... for dry weather,
    for skiing, to keep my lips from cracking ... supple lips may not be de
    rigeur, but bleeding ones hurt to heaven.
    
      Annie
    

    yes I wear lipstick, kind of an orangey-light-pink...
    
    I think my complexion is pale enough that I like the added color.
    
    BJ

    Another Chapstick junkie here. Never wore lipstick; doesn't protect my
    lips from chapping as well as Chapstick does, smells and tastes funny,
    and (me being such a slob) gets all over everything. And I don't like
    the way it looks. ("Other than that, it's fine," she said, cheerfully.)
    
    But I suppose a nice, vivid candy-apple red _would_ be better than
    Chapstick for writing "HELP! I'M BEING KIDNAPPED!" on the gas-station
    restroom mirror... ;-)
    
    -b

    No way.  Just a Blistik for those dry days.  I used to wear it 
    occasionally when dressing up, but it was always wearing off,
    coming off on drinking glasses, etc.  I couldn't see the point
    anymore.
    
    Karen.

	No lipstick (unless I'm on stage), but I do use Vaseline � Brand
Constant Care Lip Balm with Sunscreen.  I have several tubes in various
places. (care, dresser, pocket of my duck...)

	[Side note, my money clip contains a knife blade, and a combination
churchkey, screwdriver & nail file.]


					--Doug

    You bet!  I generally wear a shade called "bronzed cognac".  *Very*
    nice and earthy.  
    
    E Grace

    I have a "clear frost" lipstick that I got a while back.  It's the only
    one I have.  When and if I wear it, it just makes it look like I have
    lipstick on that's the exact color of my lips.
    
    I may have used it 10 times total.  I can't remember exactly when I
    bought it but I may have been in school.
    
    Lisa

    
    I only have to inhale for lipstick to fade from my lips, and since
    I'm too lazy to paint my face every few moments I usually stick to
    lip balm, either Carmex or Avon.  I cannot tolerate the sensation
    of bare lips -- something has to be on them at all times.
    
    Carla
    

    Yes, I do, I hate cracked lips and lipstick keeps them healthy and nice
    looking... I carry 2 shades in purse and have many more at home.
    Ana
    

    No wonder my purse strap suicided out.
    
    I have three lipsticks (red, pink, brown)� and a chapstick.  I
    almost never wear them, but when I do, I put on the color very
    carefully, getting the shape of my lips exactly, then I wipe
    off just about all of it, leaving color without (It is my fervent
    hope.) mess and transfer-ability.
    
    						Ann B.
    
    �  Of course that is an oversimplification.  No self-respecting
    cosmetic leaves the drawing board (let alone the factory) without
    a jazzy, and perhaps even descriptive name.  Mine seem to be (The
    bottoms are a bit worn.) TIMcLESS PRUN'B, which must be TIMELESS
    BRONZE, and... well, their numbers are 420 and either 430 or 480.

    Nope, I do the chapstick bit instead.  I never did learn to stay
    within the lines when coloring, although I make an occasional attempt
    if I'm getting really dressed up.

    Trouble is, then I see Mick Jagger every time I look in the mirror.

	Sharon

re: .19

    If it's brown, it could be "Timeless Prune".

    Carla,
    
    I like dry lips, mine and others.
    
    sue

    
    
    I usually use lip glosses.  Cover Girl makes a great stick gloss that
    has a hint of color to it, that's what I use most (the red, the pink,
    and the fushia ones).  
    
    I've got a very dry spot on my lips, so I have to have something on it
    at all time otherwise they will crack and bleed (yuck!).
    
    I hate heavy lipstick, it dries my lips out even more.....I like the
    natural look, and the glosses I use do that (just give me a hint of
    color....my lips are the same color as my skin...i need a little
    color).
    
    kath

    I'm in the gloss crowd.  My lips are VERY pale and I find a little
    color helps.  I must confess though -- maybe because I grew up in teh
    no lipstick era -- I have the darndest time remembering to reapply it
    during the day.  Why can't it just stay there like the eye make-up
    does?
    
    Polly
    
    PS  Why gloss?  I like the look better and have had a problem with
    lipsticks turning purple on my lips.  I have a Paprika (reddish),
    Raspberry Mist (vivid pink wiht silver frost) and Plum Rose which is
    the softest and most often worn.

    	Blistek for me.  On occasion a gloss with a hint of color,
    though you can hardly even see that.  In the winter, my lips and
    skin tend towards the dry side, so I gotta keep 'em moisturized!

    	amy

    
    I heard on NPR a couple of months ago that some folks seem to be almost
    addicted to chapstick -- something about your lips getting more chapped
    because of the chapstick so you need to apply more....  I've heard similar 
    things about nasal sprays.  I guess, as in most things, moderation is
    the key.  
    
    When I was a teenager, I thought makeup was cool.  Then for a while
    after I came out, I thought it was totally uncool, and then more
    recently I realized that just because it didn't feel good to me to wear
    it, it really was ok for other women (or men!) to wear it.  Part of me
    thinks it can't be very good for you to put plastic stuff with dye in
    it on your eyelids or on your lips, but I know I do stuff that isn't
    good for me.  And... the government wouldn't allow folks to sell products 
    that were dangerous, right?
    
    feeling even more cynical and sarcastic since I started reading about
    the assassination of JFK.  
    
    Justine
              

    Lipstick is applied each morning - just after I comb my hair.  I don't
    do either one again until I get home.  I wish I could say I don't have
    to refresh make-up or comb hair during they day, but the fact is that
    I am just toooo lazy!
    
    -m

    Nope, don't carry one, don't even know how to use it.  My Mom has been
    on my case about it for over 20 years.  I have to confess there have
    been times I was tempted to try it, but its embarassing to admit that
    I don't know the first thing about using it or what color to get.
    I know one thing, I could never wear it around my mother, she'd
    embarass the h*ll out of me about it.  Besides it would ruin my nature
    girl image.
    
    Mary

Oh geeze, I'm the one that keeps the cosmetics firms in business I guess. I do
wear lipstick and reapply it or a gloss several times a day. I'm with Carla, I
hate my lips being dry. When I play my horn in a performace I put vaseline on
my lips at every long rest. If you've ever split a chapped lip playing an
instrument you'd know why it's to be avoided at all costs.

I wear blue-pink type colors. My favorite is a gloss called "hint of Fuchia".
If I don't wear it my lips are the same color as my skin. To make up (giggle)
for this lipstick weakness I rarely wear eye make-up and dye my lashes rather
than wear mascara. liesl

    Yes, I carry lipstick in my purse or when I don't carry one (in clubs)
    I put in in my friends purse.  I wear a deep red or burgandy actually
    called Different Grape by Clinique.  Also, do carry chapstick.  Use it
    when going skiing under my lipstick for extra protection. 
    
    I don't carry a pocketknife.  I would cut myself with it....
    
                                                 Deb 
    
    

    
    Yes, I carry a lipstick and a chap stick.  I wear lipstick most of the
    time (it's a sort of bronze colour).
    
    Sam
    

    
    Basically I carry a zippo, a brother, a business card, a dicky thumb
    and the weight of the worlds troubles. 
    

    
    Yeah - I have a bronze lipstick that goes most places with me.
    It's one designed to stay on, and I put it on with a brush (to try
    and get it to *really* stay put), and then forget about it....
    
    And I carry Blisteze lip conditioner too. If my lips get at all dry,
    I ditch the lipstick and go on to that.
    
    'gail
    

    I carry Antique Rose lipstick, it's the colour I wore on my wedding
    day and my mum bought me it.
    
    I also carry a small jar of Hair Company's Strawberry Lip Balm,
    not only does it smell delicious but it also put's a slight tint
    to the lips.
    
    
    
    
    Tracy W
    
    

    I don't do makeup, really.  I carry Blistik in my purse and use it all
    the time, though.  
    
    -Jody
    

    I don't carry lipstick, but I put it on each morning (shade depends
    on what I'm wearing), I have one in the car, and one in my desk.
    
    Linda

    I always carry lipstick and I generally (in the winter) apply it
    over the chapstick.  I use the blue-pink tones and normally wear
    1 or 2 colors regularly.  Have a bunch at home that once out of
    the package weren't quite right.  I hate having 'naked lips'.
    I will touch it up during the day whenever it seems necessary.
    
    Christine
    
    PS-liesl-I think I helping you keep the cosmetics companys in
    business.  The hell of it is, again. like the the lipsticks,
    something that looks great in the package looks like garbage
    on the face and I actually have more make up that I DON'T use
    that I do!

    Neutrogena Lip Mumblypeg (not its real name) roolz OK.  It goes on
    easier than Chapstick, is flavorless and odorless, and can be polished
    to a high gloss for those special occasions.
    
    Ray

    re .37
    
    I solved the make-up that just doesn't make it (so to speak) problem
    by going to Merle Norman (you can get it done other places, inlcuding
    a lot of the major department stores) and having a "make-over" done.
    Then professionals help you to see what colors work for you.  In fact,
    3 of us, all with different coloring and "styles" went at the same
    time.  It was a lot of fun and we all ended up with colors that we
    wouldn't have thought of using.
    
    Polly
    
    ps  I chose Merle Norman because my dermatologist recommended it.  If I
    hadn't started having problems with sensitive skin, I'd be at the
    Shesido counter.  They have the BEST eye shadow colors!
    

    re.38
    
    Ray,
    
    Do you use a standard shoe polish cloth to buff or does it come with
    a teeny, tiny buffing cloth?
    
    Polly
    
    ps  Or....... a battery operated polisher?????
    

    Thanks for the tip Polly!  I did something like that 
    years ago at the Lancome counter in a department store.
    The woman was into using a lot of heavy dark shadows on
    my eyes and although she said they were my colors, I
    thought they looked horrible.  I'd like to find somebody
    (the make up artist) who is into enhancing more that 
    covering using natural colors!  Sigh, the things I do....
    
    Christine

�    Do you use a standard shoe polish cloth to buff or does it come with
�    a teeny, tiny buffing cloth?
    
    The easiest way is to find someone else who wears Neutrogena Lip
    Munger.  Failing that, I turn to a nail buffer that I found under the
    medicine cabinet one day. 
    
    A russet potato used in a back and forth flossing motion works well,
    too.
    
    Ray

    
    	Well, I'm one of those who wears lipstick every day at
    	work. I'm very pale, and I think lipstick adds a little
    	life to my face...After years of smudgy, waxy sticks, I
    	am glad that Cover Girl has come out with Lip Advance (is
    	this where I'm supposed to say that I'm not endorsing the 
    	company and I don't know anyone who works there??), so far
    	they are the only ones who have it. It's a powder that you 
    	put on your lips with a sponge applictor, then use a small
    	brush to cover it with a clear gloss (if you wish, or leave
    	it matte). Powder, gloss, and brush/applicator are all in a 
    	neat little compact (with mirror, of course). It literally
    	does stay on all day, through coffee, lunch, etc! I touch
    	it up once, maybe, but I'm amazed at how well it lasts...
    
    	Well, anyways, it comes in lots of colors, coded as to cool,
    	warm or nuetral for those who have had `their colors done'.
    	
    	Sherry
    

    Christine,
    
    I do makeup if you're interested.  I'm also into a quasi-natural look,
    so I would leave the trowel at home!
    
    Oh, one other thing.  The products I use are all certified cruelty
    free.
    
    E Grace

    I'm starting to wonder... Is there some sort of inverse correlation
    between people who wear lipstick and people who carry pocket knives?
    
    Mary

Well, if you carry both lipstick and a small pocketknife in your handbag,
you stand a chance of grabbing the wrong one when you're in a hurry.

Think of it as "evolution in action".

re: .46

    This is the main reason why I refuse to carry mace -- not carrying
    an inhaler is not an option.

    Yes, several.

    My lips are naturally quite dark, so for every day I don't have
    much need to wear lipstick.  I do normally wear a lip gloss in the
    summer (my current one is gloss/sunscreen from Mark Kay -- is
    that politically incorrect or what?  But a good friend was selling
    it and I put friendship above politics), and lip balm in the
    winter.  I use Old Faithful brand lip balm, containing lanolin,
    safflower oil, beeswax, lecithin, wintergreen oil, Paba, and
    nothing else, made in Bozeman, Montana.  My mother mails me a
    supply if I run out between trips home.  If I'm not carrying a
    purse, it gets tucked into my jeans pocket. 
    
    If the occasion calls for it (standards meetings, presentations,
    going out to dinner) I will wear anything from lipstick (Poppy
    this year) and eyeshadow (cocoa, buff, and gold) to full makeup. 
    I own a full set of current fashionable colors and have recently
    learned how to apply them.  If I am wearing makeup, I'll be
    carrying it, but I don't carry it just in case.  Those of you who
    have known me for a while will recognize this as new behavior :)
    
    --bonnie

    I wouldn't go without it.  I love color, in my clothes and my makeup. 
    Right now I'm wearing Certainly Red by Revlon.  Revlon seems to be the
    best buy for the money and has somewhat good staying power although I
    must have reapplied at least 3 times already today.  And then blot. 
    You must blot to get the matte look.
    
    I do it in restaurants too.  Some people think it's tacky but I think
    if you do it with the right flair some may even think it's sexy.  Take
    your time, outline your lips, kiss the napkin, and leave it for the
    waiter or waitress.
    
    Sometimes I think maybe if I found just the right shade my life would
    be perfect.  :-)  Really sometime's the right shade with what I'm
    wearing makes my day.  The little things make me happy, I guess.
    
    Colors that are in my desk and pocketbook right now:
    
    Love That Red
    Certainly Red
    Burnt Sienna
    Copperglaze Wine
    Garnet Lame
    Raisin
    
    Fanatic, huh?  Now at home....

	I carry both, now!!!!

I can't tell you how many times I've used that nifty little scissors on my
(freebie from Apple Comp -shhhhh-) pocketknife.

It's hard for me to believe that I actually have 3 lipsticks in my -gasp-
makeup bag in my purse.  Who woulda thunk it, even a year ago.  I guess that's
what being on the prowl does to you.

I started out with a misty mauve shade that went with everything and was barely
there so when I forgot to reapply it, it wouldn't look funny.  But now...

			give me RED.  

When I'm putting those last minute touches on in the morning I feel like I
look better after I apply lipstick.  I guess the extra color really does
make a difference.  I even check it during the day to make sure it's on. So
far I like Avon long lasting the best (Lancome bled on me) but I'm open for
other long lasting suggestions.

Color me beautiful as the saying goes.  ;-)  (My Stepmom would be proud)

-Andrea

    Talking of Lipstick reminded me of this (it happened about 7-8 years
    ago)
    
    I was lying in bed trying to get to sleep but my nose was really
    bunged up with the cold, so I reached over to my bedside cabinet
    and picked up my vicks inhaler (you know one of those finger like
    things you stick up your nose and breathe in) and started to inhale
    it deeply.  Lying back I realised that it just didn't seem to be
    working so I decided to go down to the bathroom and blow my nose.
    
    AAAAAAAaarrrrggghhh on putting when I looked in the bathroom mirror
    you guessed it...... I had stuck my lipstick up my nose by mistake
    and had two burgundy rings around my nostrils.
    
    
    Tracy W

    
    I've sprayed saline solution up my nose the same way.
    
    Bet your lipsticked (lipstuck?) nostrils presented quite a sight!
    
    Carla
    

    Moral of the story:  Never share lipsticks!  UUUUUUUGHHHHHHH YOu never
    know where it has been!!!  
    
    This is a little off topic, but it reminds me of how I was cured of
    chewing on pens and pencils....One day I saw my boss absently sticking
    his up his nose!!!!!!!1 I nearly died!
    
    Kim

    The previous few replies should be moved to Note 14 (Was my face
    RED when...).
    
    						Ann B.
    						who cannot sincerely
    						sound like a moderator
    						in this case

    I don't war lipstick because I have very dark, red lips (people
    regularly ask me if I am wearing lipstick) so I don't need it, and I
    hate the greasy waxy feel on my lips.
    
    I also don't like kissing women with lipstick on for the same reason.
    
    D!

I don't understand the whole concept of makeup personally.

However, I have some petroleum free chapstick around for the winter
(which I am not addicted to - close friends can attest to the fact that
I, in fact, never put on any before noon).

Now, I have been known to wear a clown face on occasion.  Which has a
completely white face, black lines around the eyes, blue on the cheeks,
red nose, and a bright red exaggerarted lips (and big red Cons and a
funny hat).  It's interesting to put on clown face and see what
happens!  Clown face and clown clothes seem to help one get into the
clown spirit...

john

    When I first read the title of this note I started to reply "no"
    then I thought, "maybe I do have a lipstick in my purse" so I looked
    inside and low and behold, there was a lipstick in there.  Don't
    ask me why, the last time I remember wearing lipstick was at my
    boyfriend's brother's wedding and that was a year ago last August.
    
    Lori B.
    
    P.S.  I don't carry a pocketknife.  I checked!

    Especially in winter!
    
    I even remember when Chapstick came "personalized" with a little
    card-suit or animal-shaped semi-unique:-) jobbie on each one, so you
    could tell more easily which was "yours."  And this in the pre-iconic
    days, even!
    
    Remember a champ skier named Susie Chaffee (aka Susie Chapstick ??:-)

    Yup, I wear it occassionally.  Mostly i wear gloss. When I go outside
    for a walk or when they are chapped I wear a lip-protector with
    sunscreen.  I put nightcream on them at night to prevent chapping.  I
    use all Mary Kay products and have for 11 years.  I like the service!
    
    Judy

    I think there's one in the bottom of my purse; but I don't remember the
    last time I used it.  I do keep a chapstick in my coat pocket, and in
    the truck though.
    
    C.