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Conference turris::womannotes-v3

Title:Topics of Interest to Women
Notice:V3 is closed. TURRIS::WOMANNOTES-V5 is open.
Moderator:REGENT::BROOMHEAD
Created:Thu Jan 30 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 30 1995
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1078
Total number of notes:52352

623.0. "Over There" by HENRYY::HASLAM_BA (Creativity Unlimited) Tue Jan 08 1991 17:26

    With the possibility of another war so close, I would like to start
    this note for all of us who have loved ones or friends who will
    be over there.  Please list them here so we can all keep them in
    our thoughts/prayers.
    
    Barb
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623.1Sgt. David McMannisHENRYY::HASLAM_BACreativity UnlimitedTue Jan 08 1991 17:298
    I'll be thinking of my son, Sergeant David (Fender) McMannis, U.S.
    Army infantry, and wishing him a prompt and safe return.
    
    Your Birth Mother,
    
    Barb
    
    
623.2CGVAX2::CONNELLIt's reigning cats.Tue Jan 08 1991 17:2910
    Barb, I hope this is Ok. My nephew is assigned to the America carrier
    group. The America has gone over, but his ship the Radford has not. We
    just don't know and it's on a day to day basis. We pray he won't but
    they need his ship there. It's a destroyer escort.
    
    Glennn Andrew Moore
    Bosun's Mate
    U.S.S. Radford
    
    Phil
623.3LT Marti StermerBATRI::MARCUS"I am not an actor...this is my true story"Tue Jan 08 1991 17:4213
A friend I have not actually met face-to-face; I began writing to her through
another friend and we have developed a correspondance friendship.  Seems very
fitting to think of her here.

Sigh... she is 90 miles from the S/K border and I have discovered that out the
back door of her tent are Hawk missles, Patriot missles and MLDS.  I grow very
uneasy as we approach the deadline...It's as though I can feel the fear...

LT Marti Stermer
743rd Maint Co
Deep in the Saudi Desert

Barb
623.4HENRYY::HASLAM_BACreativity UnlimitedTue Jan 08 1991 17:434
    That's exactly what I had in mind, Phil.  Let's hope he doesn't
    have to go.
    
    Barb
623.5NOATAK::BLAZEKvision thingTue Jan 08 1991 17:538
    
    Dave Hulslander, good friend, father of Doris the One-Eyed Wonder
    Dog, husband of one of my best friends, come back to the dancing.
    
    Peace and hope to everyone there.
    
    Carla
    
623.6SWAM2::DERY_CHTue Jan 08 1991 18:066
    
    My cousin is a Marine and is in Saudi.  Please include Jim Richard
    and his very pregnant wife, Julie, in your thoughts and prayers. 
    I'm hoping and praying that all of this doesn't end in war. 
    
    Cherie
623.7elsewhereDECWET::JWHITEbless us every oneTue Jan 08 1991 18:245
    
    my dear brother philip is commander of a unit in germany scheduled
    to be disbanded in 1991, after which time he will be sent 'where
    needed'. i think where he's needed is with his spouse and new-born.
    
623.8SX4GTO::OLSONDoug Olson, ISVG West, UCS1-4Tue Jan 08 1991 20:2817
    My SO Stacey Jueal's close friend Margie is affianced to a Coast Guard
    officer I only know by his first name.  Wayne volunteered in August and
    went to Saudi Arabia in September (and Margie was *pissed*).  Remember
    Wayne.
    
    Stacey's friend David, a Marine Corporal, was sent to Saudi Arabia in
    August in the first mobilization.  Julie, in Twentynine Palms California, 
    was delivered of their first child in December, and is having a hard time 
    making ends meet now that David's pay doesn't include a subsistence 
    allowance (since they feed the troops directly when they're in the field.) 
    Remember David; and remember Julie.
    
    Of the many people I served with on active duty in ROTC and in the
    USAF, from 1979-1987, I'm certain that some are and will be actively
    involved in the gulf activity.  Their names are too many to list.
    
    DougO
623.9BRABAM::PHILPOTTCol I F 'Tsingtao Dhum' PhilpottWed Jan 09 1991 07:148
    My thoughts for my cousin, Lt. Col. Peter Philpott - he's out there
    with the forces of the United Arab Emirate as an expert on mine
    warfare.
    
    And especially my thoughts for my Godfather, Sir Peter de la Billiere,
    who is commanding the British ground forces...
    
    /. Ian .\
623.10WMOIS::B_REINKEconstantly making exciting discoveriesWed Jan 09 1991 09:044
    My nephew Michael Cluver is on the USS Saratoga which is either
    in the Mediterranean or the Persian Gulf.

    Bonnie
623.11POLAR::WOOLDRIDGEWed Jan 09 1991 10:116
    I know no one in the Persain Gulf, but I think it would be good to
    pray for all the leaders of the countrys as well.
    
    
    Peace,
    Bill
623.12Persian Gulf Vet...ORCAS::MCKINNON_JAOtium cum DignitatumWed Jan 09 1991 11:4921
    I would not want to be on the U.S.S. Saratoga if it was tied up to 
    a pier.  It is a OLD Firetrap.  I served on OLD firetraps.   Floating
    Coffins is what they are called.  Also, they are the first targets.
    
    The term "Destroyer Escort" is no longer used in the US Navy, I think
    that it has been upgraded to FF = "Fast Frigate".  Their job is to 
    stop, intercept or destroy incoming to the Carrier.  ANYWAY they can.
    Which means placing themselves between firepower and target.
    Also, they will pick up downed flyers and numerous other duties.
    
    I have no wish for war.  But, this will have to be dealt with 
    either now or later.  and now is the time.   with almost 
    400,000 troops in place, USE them. Get in, HIT HARD, VERY HARD, 
    and get out.  
    
    Jim McKinnon
    Persian Gulf Vet "75"
    USS KITTY HAWK CVA-63
    
     I also do not want Yanks dying in the sand.
    
623.13JURA::DONNELLYThink we overdid it with the Sherry..Wed Jan 09 1991 12:1812
    
    My thoughts are with several guys in the US fleets.. when I lived in 
    Perth W Australia (until Aug 14 this year).. the US gulf fleet used
    to come into Fremantle for R&R every couple of months..I have sat
    and chatted with quite a few of your sailors in bars...don't know any
    names..it was always 'bill' or 'sam' but I hope they come through safe.
    
    Also several old mates in 3 RTR and especially Bob Dando a mate from
    my teens who is with the British Armour as an engineer.
    
    Aidan
    
623.14Army Sgt Richard HerberCASCRT::LUSTBless the beasts and childrenWed Jan 09 1991 14:088
    My son-in-law, Sgt. Richard F. Herber, now in the Saudi sand.  We have
    already been told that if there is war he will be in the front lines,
    or possibly behind enemy lines.  He is in "special forces" (the green
    berets).  I pray he makes it home to see his son and daughter grow up,
    and to know the child due in May.  And I pray for my daughter, who has
    to be prepared to deal with ALL possibilities.
    
    Linda
623.15MariePHONE::POIRIERThu Jan 10 1991 09:094
    My cousin, Marie Mariani, is in the Air Force.  She left the day after
    Christmas.
    
    Suzanne
623.16Maj. Mike EdwardsPOWDML::EDWARDSThu Jan 10 1991 11:294
    My husband, Maj. Mike Edwards, is in Saudi in a combat support
    hospital.
    
    Betty
623.17RTL::LEACHFrom parts unknown...Fri Jan 11 1991 05:455
  My brother, Lt. Timothy Leach, USN, Flight Surgeon aboard the USS Guam.
I hope he's prepared himself for the gore.

  Patrick
623.18BTOVT::THIGPEN_Sfreedom: not a gift, but a choiceFri Jan 11 1991 08:3812
    I hope I can convey my feelings adequately here.
    
    I have no family member, no friend, no aquaintance in any branch of the
    U.S. services, in the Gulf or elsewhere.  My own kids are (thank God)
    too young; my own contemporaries, including the man I loved then, are
    Vietnam-era.
    
    So, paraphrasing someone's comment about the Vietnam Vet's Memorial in
    D.C., I have to say:  all of them.  Men, women, moms, dads, sons,
    daughters.  My sisters and brothers.  My countrymen and women.
    
    Sara
623.19William Kaut--U.S.M.C.USWRSL::SHORTT_LATotal Eclipse of the HeartFri Jan 11 1991 13:355
    Bill got re-activated on the 9th of January.  Everyone here at the
    Western CMC will miss him and will be thinking of him.
    
    
                                  L.J.
623.20my wishes for soldiers everywhereTLE::D_CARROLLget used to it!Fri Jan 11 1991 14:1610
    I had so many friends in ROTC in college I can't possibly list them
    all.  I have lost track of all of them, so I have no idea if any of
    them are Over There, but I would imagine that at least some are.  My
    thoughts are with them, and with all the people who face possible war
    and death in the Middle East (the Iraqian soldiers, too; I doubt they
    have any more say over what happens and whether we go to war than our
    soldiers, do, but like our soldiers, they pay the price with their
    lives.)
    
    D!
623.21ESIS::GALLUPSwish, swish.....splat!Fri Jan 11 1991 15:5520
    
    
    
    I know quite a few people over there.  Three that come to mind
    immediately are 
    
    	Ron and Don Selvy :  Both pilots, graduated from the Naval Academy
    			     with honours, I believe.  (twin, age: 27/28)
    	Nikki Dobbs :  I'm unsure, mechanic possibly. His age: 18, I believe.
    
    These are people that I currently am in contact with their families.  I
    grew up in a military town, so I can probably guess that there are at
    least 5-10 other people I know who are over there and I'm just not 
    directly aware of it (because I've lost contact with them since moving).
    
    
    Come home, all.....healthy, I pray.
    
    kath
    
623.22With apologies to Kath Gallup and Phyllis DillerREGENT::BROOMHEADDon't panic -- yet.Fri Jan 11 1991 16:594
    Mother of twins, Ron and Don Selvy, ages 27 and 28, informs the
    `Enquirer', "I'll never forget that birth!"
    
    						Ann B.
623.23the MarcottesTLE::RANDALLWhere's the snow?Fri Jan 11 1991 17:069
    I lost 7 friends and classmates in Viet Nam. I don't want to go
    through this again. 
    
    My daughter's best friend has two siblings in the gulf, a brother
    in the Marines and a sister in the Navy.  Kat says that if the war
    is still going on, she's going to join because she's not going to
    let the men she knows bear all the death alone.
    
    --bonnie
623.24I certainly thought it was clear.ESIS::GALLUPSwish, swish.....splat!Sun Jan 13 1991 14:2810
    
    
    RE: .22 (Ann)
    
    I didn't say "27/28 respectively".  I wrote it that way to make it
    clear that they were around 27 to 28, I'm not aware of their exact age
    and/or their birthday, but they did graduate two years ahead of me from
    high school.
    
    kath
623.25 ;-(ESIS::GALLUPSwish, swish.....splat!Sun Jan 13 1991 14:297
    
    
    I just found out today when talking with Mom that three other people we
    know are there.
    
    
    kath
623.26CAPT. DALE J. SOUZA, U.S. ARMY RESERVEWFOV12::LITEROVICHTue Jan 15 1991 12:4414
    Capt. Dale J. Souza, U.S. Army Reservs, artillary.  My brother was
    activated on Thanksgiving, he was suppose to be in Saudi for
    Christmas, however, shipping delays are keeping him stateside until mid
    Jan (or right about now).  This is a very emotional time for my family,
    we pray and we hope, I feel so very helpless and scared.
    
    I also have a friend of 12 years that is in the reserves with her
    husband and I have not been able to contac them to find out how they
    are, in addition my best friend's husband may be on his way.  I will
    post these names when I find out if they are on their way..
    
    Prays for all who are affected.
    
    Kim Literovich
623.27good news, bad newsRUTLND::JOHNSTONbean sidheTue Jan 15 1991 16:3219
    the good news:
    
      Porter Burks Cox, Col.USAF, Ret., my dad, should be home within the
    next few hours. I just got the call from my mother.
    
    the bad news:
    
      he is/was a chaplain with the Diplomatic Corps. of course, I'm 'not
    to read anything into this ...'
    
    
    quite honestly I'm thrilled that he's out of it ... after watching what
    the U.S. 'non-presence' in Cambodia did to him.  I'm also pleased, in a
    rather negative way, with the more honest pulling out of non-combatants
    this time around rather than leaving them there for the 'message it
    sends.'
    
      Annie
      
623.28MioBINKLY::FRANCESCHIWed Jan 16 1991 13:127
    My brother, CPL Mio Franceschi...  
    
    His platoon isn't going, but last week he volunteered to go with
    another...  He got his shots yesterday, and will be headed out on
    the 25th.
    I'm thankful that he is only 6 hours away from me and that I have the
    time to drive up to see him this weekend before he goes.
623.29JJLIET::JUDYThe sinners are much more funWed Jan 16 1991 14:1218
    
    	Since many of the young men I graduated from high school with 
    	joined the military shortly after graduation, I'm sure there
    	are a few over there that I know.  And actually I'm glad that
    	I don't know "who" actually is.....I don't want to think about
    	it.
    
    	However, my cousin is in the reserves and depending on how
    	things go, could be called up.  He's safe at home for now.
    	A friend of his did go over though.  I'm not sure what branch
    	he's in but please pray for Bryan Sewell.  He is also the younger
    	brother of one of my classmates......
    
    	And I send my prayers out to everyone who has a family
    	member/friend/etc over there for their safe return.
    
    	JJ
    
623.30<<I feel as if 50% of me is missing>>ASIC::WELCHMother Goose......I love geese!Thu Jan 17 1991 22:125
    My ex-husband and present friend, Lt. Colonel David Wickham, his son
    Christopher Wickham, my oldest son, Miles M. Wickham, and my daughter,
    Paula Grace Wickham......
    
    
623.31SIEVAX::MUMFORDDon&#039;t try to outweird ME!!!!!!!Fri Jan 18 1991 20:244
    My nephew Darren, RA, who's been there for a fair while, and some former
    colleagues that I've managed to trace - Jerry, Simon and Bruce all pilots
    with the Royal Air Force.

623.32A cousinHYEND::PALMMon Jan 21 1991 12:377
    My husband's first cousin:
    
    Col. Tom Lyon
    23rd TFW DO
    Operation Desert Shielf
    
    Since August.....an F15 Squadron Commander
623.33Ray FredellCSSE32::M_DAVISMarge Davis HallyburtonMon Jan 28 1991 16:376
    Not in the military, but my brother-in-law, a commercial transport
    pilot, is making 19-hour runs between London and Riyadh.  He sleeps in
    his plane and turns around and comes back...has witnessed SCUD/Patriot
    duels overhead.
    
    mdh
623.34Richard Herber is homeCASCRT::LUSTBless the beasts and childrenThu Apr 11 1991 14:406
    Re: .14  To close the loop, Rick is now home!!!!  He arrived yesterday
    afternoon, safe and sound, and in plenty of time for the new baby!  I
    can't begin to say how grateful I am.  (Or how much he and his family 
    are enjoying the reunion!) 8-} 8-} 8-}
    
    Linda
623.35CELEBRATION!MCIS2::HUSSIANBut my cats *ARE* my kids!!Fri Apr 12 1991 09:208
    HORRAY!!!
    
    It's great to hear your family is re-united! And in time to see the
    new baby born, too! :*)
    
    How wonderful for you all!
    
    Bonnie
623.36GAZERS::NOONANI&#039;m here, I&#039;m me, and I&#039;m enoughFri Apr 12 1991 09:4816
    
    
    
    
    
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623.37MCIS2::WALTONFri Apr 12 1991 13:0310
    Linda, 
    
     	If it weren't for timing....
    
    I called D. to chat, as I was wondering what the status was.  She and
    Rick and the kids had just walked in the door.  Joshua sounded like
    someone had shot him in the butt with the glory gun!!!!
    
    
    Sue