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Conference turris::womannotes-v3

Title:Topics of Interest to Women
Notice:V3 is closed. TURRIS::WOMANNOTES-V5 is open.
Moderator:REGENT::BROOMHEAD
Created:Thu Jan 30 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 30 1995
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1078
Total number of notes:52352

504.0. "Why Work?" by FILOFX::DAVIESA (She is the Alpha...) Fri Nov 02 1990 08:59

    
    Why do you work?
    
    Is it just for the money?
    Or do you seek some kind of satisfaction from what you do?
    If so, do you get it?
    
    If salary wasn't a concern, what would *your* perfect job be?
    And where would it be located?
    
    'gail        
    
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504.1SA1794::CHARBONNDbut it was a _clean_ missFri Nov 02 1990 09:045
    current job no comment
    
    perfect job - writer for an outdoor magazine (one of those guys
    who always gets the big fish and hunts caribou in Alaska for a
    living :-) )
504.2LYRIC::BOBBITTCOUS: Coincidences of Unusual SizeFri Nov 02 1990 09:0515
    You're never going to believe this.
    
    * I love my job *
    * I like the people I work with *
    * I feel good doing what I do *
    
    
    In truth, perhaps I am a combination of a frustrated engineer and a
    frustrated poet, with technical writing being a good, solid middle
    ground for both.  I get satisfaction from knowing I've done an
    excellent job, from doing things above and beyond the call of duty, and
    from helping other writers where I can.  
    
    -Jody
    
504.3A BETTER PLACE TO BE!PCOJCT::COHENat least I'm enjoyin' the rideFri Nov 02 1990 09:2821
    I'm sure you've heard this all before...
    
    * I don't hate my job, but would rather be doing something else *
    * I do it for the money...which by the way, is not that great! *
    
    
    My dream job...the one I had when I finished my Masters degree - I
    worked in Cleveland, at Warrensville Center, a state run facility for
    mentally retarded/emotionally disturbed folks.  I had 16 adult men,
    and worked as a communications therapist...I had as much heartache as I
    had joy, but to see one of my guys do something I had taught them, to
    see Danny graduate High School ( I was the proudest non-parent there),
    to see Tom get a job washing dishes at the Marriott....well, just
    telling you all about it can make my heart ache again!
    
    Oh, how I wish I could afford to go back and do it all over again!
    
    SIGH!
    
    Jill
    
504.4book boundTLE::D_CARROLLHakuna MatataFri Nov 02 1990 09:376
    My perfect job (if salary were no object): STUDENT!
    
    Assuming I have to support myself in some manner: phychologist, esp.
    couple and sex counselling
    
    D!
504.5RAVEN1::AAGESENis it nov *15th* yet??!Fri Nov 02 1990 09:4011
    
    
    `gail,
    
       if i could be assured of enough financial security to get by, i'd be
    one of the last surviving gypsies traversing the countryside.
    
       i care less about those life experiences i find at WORK, than those
    i find outside of work.
    
    ~r
504.6addendumRAVEN1::AAGESENis it nov *15th* yet??!Fri Nov 02 1990 09:432
    
    or start my bookstore! (-;
504.9SurvivalMAMTS2::TTAYLORTraveletter is my LIFE!Fri Nov 02 1990 10:5010
    Because It gives me a sense of purpose.  Because I'd be bored silly if I
    didn't.  Because it gives me financial independence.  I feel as though
    I am making a contribution to society, the world, my children's future
    (although I have no children yet).
    
    But it all boils down to survival, doesn't it?  If I didn't work, I
    wouldn't survive.  My family is 400 miles away and all of the kids (5)
    are totally independent.
    
    Tammi
504.10or sit around in barsDECWET::JWHITEsappho groupieFri Nov 02 1990 11:226
    
    i do it for the money.
    (though it's a painless, almost fun job and i love my co-workers)
    
    ideal job? getting paid real money to conduct
    
504.11FORBDN::BLAZEKnever saw a woman so aloneFri Nov 02 1990 11:4013
    
    I work at DEC for the money.  there is little joy in what I do.
    consequently, I probably will not be doing it for much longer.
    
    I work, for no money, at a shelter for runaways for fulfillment
    and _truly_ making a difference in someone's life, something I
    find impossible to do at Digital.
    
    my ideal job would be to write lyrics for Billy Idol.  (he needs
    the help.)
    
    Carla
    
504.12ZEPPLN::TATISTCHEFFtim approves, tooFri Nov 02 1990 12:069
    i do it for the money.  i like my job a lot, but there's too much of it
    - too large a fraction of my waking hours is spent at work.  the stuff
    i work with is neat, and i like the folks i work with.
    
    ideal job?  part-time at wordsworth (bookstore in harvard sq).  get to
    read ALL the books i want and be around people who like books all day
    long...  i worked full-time there for a while, but the $$ were abysmal.
    
    lt
504.13CGVAX2::CONNELLReality, an overrated concept.Fri Nov 02 1990 12:1812
    
    First and foremost for the money. If I won Megabucks, I leave in a
    minute. Actually 2 weeks. I'd give a notice. Then I would pay off my
    bills, and get ahead on my child support until their 18th birthdays and
    disappear into the north woods somewhere. Only my kids and a few
    friends would know where to find me. 
    
    Ideal job. Own my own bookstore, specializing in science fiction,
    comics, occult, and of course human relations type books.
    
    
    Phil
504.14keeping secrets from me?DECWET::JWHITEsappho groupieFri Nov 02 1990 12:453
    
    carla, i didn't know you did that! my opinion of you goes up!
    
504.15FRAGLE::WASKOMFri Nov 02 1990 13:0011
    I know I'm among the fortunate few.  I'm in a job that I truly enjoy,
    in spite of the frustrations and politics.  I'm using skills that,
    while they can be taught, have come to me naturally.  (Someone once
    said to me, you took to "this stuff" like a duck to water - all you had
    to do was see it once.)  Joy of joys, it even pays well.  Were I to win
    the lottery, I'd still be here.
    
    But sometimes, I sincerely wish that it were possible to make a living
    as a square dancer.
    
    Alison 
504.16still dreamingCOGITO::SULLIVANSinging for our livesFri Nov 02 1990 13:0615
    
    
    
    I feel like my career in Digital kind of happened to me.  I didn't
    actively choose it.  I enjoy my work, and I do it well.  But it's 
    never felt like my calling.
    
    If I had the resources (or the courage to do it without the resources),
    I would go back to school for a Masters in Social Work and pursue a
    career as a private therapist.  I'd also do a lot more music and try to
    see if I could make a living at that and if I'd be happy with it if it
    was more of a "job."  And... someday I really would like to open a 
    women's coffeehouse/bookstore...
    
    Justine                         
504.17living my dream, loving my lifeOXNARD::HAYNESCharles HaynesFri Nov 02 1990 13:2012
My ideal job would be writing challenging interesting software to help make
software engineering more fun. I'd want a state of the art workstation as my
platform, and high bandwidth connections to the rest of the world. I'd want to
work with smart, motivated, enthusiastic people. I'd want to be well paid.

Fortunately for me, that's what I do.

Sometimes I dream about being a ski guide during the winter and a whitewater
guide/rock-climbing guide during the summer, but that's best left as a
fantasy I think.

	-- Charles
504.18What's Thoreau got that I haven't? Lower expenses...XCUSME::QUAYLEi.e. AnnFri Nov 02 1990 13:2911
    For the mortgage, food, clothing, BOOKS!
    
    If I could afford it, I wouldn't have a job.  I'd spend more time in the 
    moutains and by the sea (especially in off seasons), take more walks, 
    attend more classes, and read a lot more.  I mean, a *lot* more.
    
    Dream job?  If I had the talent, I'd be a writer - probably fantasy,
    and some sf.
    
    aq
    
504.19TALK::THIGPENFri Nov 02 1990 13:365
    dream job?  Professional dilletante.  Ambassador to dolphins and orcas.
    Discusser of weird and wild ideas at lunch with my friends.  Sardonic
    political commentator.  Earth conservator.  Friend.
    
    Oh, you mean money *is* an object?  Sigh!
504.20wannabeDECWET::JWHITEjoy shared is joy doubledFri Nov 02 1990 14:164
    
    re:.19
    sounds pretty cool to me!
    
504.21AccomplishmentOK4ME::PILOTTEFri Nov 02 1990 15:1613
    I work for the feeling of accomplishment.  I have a second job for the
    feeling of recognition/praise which you dont find much of here at DEC
    other than perhaps a plaque or two.
    
    I like the satisfaction of hearing someones needs, analyzing them and
    implementing them (I am in IS).  I also love it when the user tells me,
    "I have saved 1/2 my work week with the enhancements that were
    done"...etc..
    
    The money I need to support my family, but its not the primary focus
    for me.  I would rather have respect and clout than a large paycheck.
    
    Judy
504.22Dreams are made of this!WMOIS::S_LECLAIRFri Nov 02 1990 15:4914
    If money were no object, I'd join the crew of some really big sailboat
    and be a ship's cook in the daytime and an entertainer (piano) at night
    at a piano bar type setup.  I'd sail from port to port and meet lots of
    interesting folks and exchange ideas, recipes, music, etc.
    
    Or else, I'd go back to school full time and just study whatever I felt
    like studying at the time - not necessarily towards a degree - just
    stuff that interests me.
    
    Unfortunately, I probably will never do any of these things but it sure
    is nice to dream!!!
    
    Sue
    
504.23ASDS::BARLOWMe for MA governor!!!Fri Nov 02 1990 16:0118
    
    I'm now sure that I'm weird.  I love my job.  I like writing programs.
    I get instant feedback!  I do alot in windows so I tell people that I
    draw pictures all day and get paid for it.  Since engineering generally
    get paid better than most professions, I am happy with my salary.  I
    do my job and like it because it makes me feel smart.  Everytime I get
    something to work better or I fix a bug, I feel brilliant!  (I guess
    I'm either easy to please or I have a HUGE ego!  Hmm, wonder which.)
    
    If I could do whatever I wanted, I'd change the day from 24 hours
    to 36.  I'd spend 10 hours at DEC, 9 hours sleeping, 4 hours with my
    hubby and the rest singing in a dinner club.  A classy dinner club
    where I could sing jazz, classical and easy listening and maybe some
    blues.
    
    Rachael
    (and I'd look like Michelle Pfeiffer in the Fabulous  Baker Boys!)
    
504.24social animalKOBAL::BROWNupcountry frolicsFri Nov 02 1990 17:2018
    I can't say I don't work for the money, but the most important part
    of working for me is the connectedness, the shared labor.  I'm a 
    writer, but it's not the actual writing that fascinates me the
    most -- it's working with the developers and the other writers to
    achieve the communications and all the little pockets of
    understanding that make information flow.  I like the work,
    I like my development group, and I know how lucky I am.
    
    In a previous job, much of the pleasure (and frustration) came
    from being a Theory Z manager in a Theory X company, helping to
    foster a slight glow of sanity in the darkeness of chaos...
    
    Ideal job?  It's more like ideal jobs -- I'd love to have the
    mix of talent and financial freedom that would let me take a
    crack at a whole host of jobs -- musician, writer of fiction,
    chef, forest ranger, cartographer...
    
    Ron
504.25I *Thought* It Was a CareerHENRYY::HASLAM_BACreativity UnlimitedFri Nov 02 1990 17:338
    Money (Actually, I wouldn't need to work at a reasonable paying
    job if I didn't have kids to support.)
                           
    At this point in time, an attorney practicing "poverty law"
                          
    In the future, a judge.
    
    Barb
504.27GreenPeaceWR2FOR::COSTELLO_KEJim Morrison...A Tragic HeroSat Nov 03 1990 13:2812
    I do enjoy my job, to a point, but I do it for the money.  I'm a
    single parent and although I don't like the idea of money being
    "really important", it is.
    
    The perfect job for me would be giving all of my time to GreenPeace
    and spending my days splashing black dye on the pelts of baby Harp
    Seals, chasing after whaling ships, etc.  That would be heaven.
    I've vowed that if I ever won the lottery, that is exactly what
    I'd do with my life.
    
    Kel
    
504.28career studentGNUVAX::QUIRIYChristineSun Nov 04 1990 00:0925
    
    I'm a technical writer.  I do it for the money.  I like it somewhat.
    I started writing as a coping mechanism, or defense mechanism, whatever
    -- I always had a lot to say and not many who could be receptive, and
    it had to get out of me someway!  It's difficult to know whether I
    actually like doing something that I learned to do in self-defense.  
    Since my co-worker on my newest project notes here also, I feel pretty 
    badly that I can't match her enthusiasm. 
    
    If I didn't have to worry about money, I'd go back to school.  I'd 
    like to learn a trade -- hairdressing, so I could then volunteer my 
    time at a local nursing home (that's a lot of perms, blue rinses and
    shaves!).  Or maybe I'd open a place with a name like "Carefree Cuts" 
    for people like me who don't like using gels, foams, sprays, curling 
    irons, etc... (and I wouldn't have them on the premises, either).
    Actually, I wish someone else would do that!
    
    I'd like to go to massage therapy school, too. 
    
    And then back to college.  I'd love to be a career student.  
    
    Along with a few others, I've also dreamed of owning a bookstore.
    
    CQ
    
504.30MANIC::THIBAULTCrisis? What Crisis?Mon Nov 05 1990 12:4411
I do it for the money. If I didn't have to I'd be gone in a flash. Right
now I feel like I'm being held captive by DEC AND New England. If I live
in New England I can't afford NOT to work at DEC..yet I can't afford the
escape from New England...sigh.

Perfect job would be for a travel agent or some such traveling the world
checking out new resorts (or even old ones, I'm not picky :-)).

I would want to be located someplace warm like Georgia.

Jenna
504.31I like WORK!DUGGAN::MAHONEYTue Nov 06 1990 12:0815
    I like to work and I've always worked wherever I've been.  Money is not
    the reason, as I've worked very happily for very little money and at
    times, for no money at all, I like to be busy and try new things, I am
    handy with my hands... I like to do things that I see other people
    doing... I love to stretch a dollar... and do a good job at it! that's
    why money is not the reason for my work, I am frugal and I need little
    of it to be happy but I need to be needed, I need to work to be useful
    and... If I had millions, I probably would be doing the same darn
    things I do at the moment with the exception of more travels! The way
    things are, I manage to travel fairly often! I wish I have is... to
    have the same "privileges" that employees have in Europe! I always had
    A MONTH vacation per year from day 1, while the general manager, who
    was American, had 2 weeks per year... ( I could afford to go 2 weeks to
    the beach in summer, 1 week of skiing around Xmas and another full week
    to travel during Easter... not bad!... boy, do I love Spain)
504.32I would go to a Music school ...RTOEU::CKOEVMon Nov 12 1990 03:5520
    
    If I wouldn't need the money I earn every month I would
    leave the company, make holidays and do nothing for 
    about 6 months.
    
    Then I would go to USA to join a private music school
    and take singing, piano lessons. And after some
    years of education I would try to go back to Germany
    to earn my money as a opera singer.
    
    But first I would go to a beauty farm and relax,
    hoping to leave the farm after some weeks as a woman
    with more beauty.
    
    And I would give a lot of money to my mother, buying her
    a little apartment so that she is not dependent anymore
    from my ugly father, who thinks only money is important,
    people are unimportant to him !!!
    
    Carina
504.33Money, that's what I want.MCIS2::NOVELLOI've fallen, and I can't get upMon Nov 12 1990 21:1315
    
    I work only for the money. I originally went to school and had planned
    for a career in music, but found that I could not make enough money.
    
    I did make a go of it as an adult. I was a victim of a layoff about 6
    years ago, and I lived off my music for about a year after unemployment
    ran out. However, my wife got pregnant and we decided I had to get a
    job when the baby was born.
    
    I detest the corporate environment and see only the butt kissers get
    anywhere. I'd prefer to be in control of my own destiny, instead of
    my career decisions being made by others behind closed doors.
    
    Guy