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Conference turris::womannotes-v3

Title:Topics of Interest to Women
Notice:V3 is closed. TURRIS::WOMANNOTES-V5 is open.
Moderator:REGENT::BROOMHEAD
Created:Thu Jan 30 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 30 1995
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1078
Total number of notes:52352

320.0. "Melancholia" by PENUTS::JLAMOTTE (Take a Hike...join the AMC) Thu Aug 23 1990 13:29

    Today, had I stayed married to my ex-husband, I would have been married 
    32 years...
    
    I am a bit sad...my mind tells me that I might also have been totally 
    crazy.
    
    But it is difficult not to think of what could have been...
    
        We would have had 32 years of traditions...our family never
        evolved into a cohesive unit until many years after the 
        divorce.
    
        We would have our home paid for and be financially secure.
        Of course he has a home that is almost paid for and I have
        1.2 acres of land in Maine.  But that is another topic.
    
        The stress of child rearing would be over and maybe we would
        have rediscovered the things we had in common when we met.
    
    Roots, traditions, family customs....all are valuable to me.  We have
    some and they are good....but lacking in the stability that a marriage
    would have given me.
    
    It is also unnerving to think that I might never have the opportunity
    to be married for a long period of time....to get to the point that I
    see some of my friends, two people comfortable with each other and
    their life.
    
    Marriage has it's growth stages, do I have time to go through the
    excitement of infancy, the turmoil of adolescence to get to the 
    maturity that seems so enticing?
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320.1responsive chords in unexpected placesWMOIS::MACMILLANFri Aug 24 1990 16:1010
    This moves me...
    
    A while back my wife and I ended a seperation and agreed to continue
    our lives together again.
    
    Much of the thought process you relate...was ours in its inverted form.
    
    I feel your sadness...I wish you the best.
    
    MAC
320.2MEMV01::JEFFRIESTue Sep 11 1990 12:534
    Joyce, I understand completely. On 9/20, I would have been married 30
    years, but instead I have been divorced 22 years.
    
    +pat+
320.3CGVAX2::CONNELLReality, an overrated concept.Tue Sep 11 1990 13:1320
    I can appreciate this note also. On Oct 6th, my now-ex-wife and I
    would have been married for 17 years. We've been a divorce statistic
    for 6.5 years instead. Now we both agreed to the divorce and she was
    seeing someone else, but around this time I get just a bit sad. I can
    still remember every word of the wedding ceremony and what happened at
    the reception and honeymoon. I remember setting up our 1st apartment
    and buying our home. I remember her being pregnant and how excited we
    were. The birth of our children. Just being together and taking
    pleasure in each other's company. I could go on and on.
    
    I remember the bad times most of the time. In fact, so much that I
    actively avoid anything that looks like it might even remotely have the
    slightest chance of maybe being more than a casual aquaintance and I
    know that isn't right. 
    
    I'm glad for this chance to remember the good times too. There were
    many. Just not enough to keep us together for eternity and they didn't
    last long enough. Sad but true.
    
    Phil(who's a bit misty right now)
320.4Life happensGWYNED::YUKONSECbeing gentle is *not* being wimpy!!!!!!!!!Thu Oct 25 1990 10:5724
Well, today is my tenth wedding anniversary.  Tomorrow I will sign and have 
notorized the divorce papers.  I haven't seen my husband for 7 years, and 
walking out on me really was the best thing he ever did for me, yet . . .

When I married, I didn't do it with the expectation of getting divorced.  I
married Richard because I loved him, deeply.  I, too, remember every detail
of our wedding day.  I, too, remember him drawing his breath in when he saw
me at the altar, and whispering "My God.  You're *so* beautiful."  I, too,
remember the private jokes, the nuzzling, the playing.

I, too, remember how he changed almost literally the day after the wedding.
I, too, remember the verbal and emotional abuse.  I, too, remember being told
that I was F***ing ignorant.  I, too, remember being told I was too fat, at 
130 pounds, to make love to.  I, too, remember taking 10 laxatives a day, and 
exercising compulsively, just so he would love me again.

I wish those were the only things I remebered.  I wish I didn't remember ANY
of the good things.  It would make today easier.  But, I guess no one ever 
said life would be easy.

Oh.  Before _anyone_ decides that I am being too one-sided...yes, there were
things that *I* did wrong also.  I just never became abusive.

E Grace
320.5AKOV13::LAMOTTEJ & J's MemereThu Oct 25 1990 11:434
    sighhh...there are so many of us!
    
    hugs E Grace
    
320.6It is NOT a sweet sorrowEDIT::RUSSELLThu Oct 25 1990 12:3440
    Ouch.  October 17th would have been my 10th anniversary.  Instead, the
    divorce has been final for 5 1/2 years.
    
    I sometimes have nightmares that I will awake and be next to him and
    not be free afterall.  I sometimes have dreams that I will awake and be
    next to him and all the sh*t was the nightmare.
    
    The freedom of being single again was not something I sought, I'd had
    years enough of it before we married.  I wanted a strong and enduring
    marriage with the man I loved deeply.
    
    I wanted us both to achieve all we wanted and grow with each others
    full assistance and support and love, I wanted our children, I wanted
    our home.  We made plans before marriage and talked often about our
    dreams and plans and our future. We went through pre-Canna with our
    priest and all felt we were headed for a good union.
    
    Once married...
    
    I feel sad it did not work.  I feel suspicious of myself that I choose
    a man so utterly wrong for me, so two-faced.  I feel sad that for a
    year I went to marriage counseling without him and finally he joined me
    and blandly told the counsellor I'd been lying, that he was faithful
    and was employed, and we did have sex often.
    
    I feel angry that he told me I was responsible for the divorce because
    I had gotten the lawyer. I feel angry that I was left with huge bills
    that I struggled for three years to pay off because I was the employed
    one with the credit and checking account that he abused.
    
    I have put my life back together.  I felt a pang of sorrow for loss of
    my single life when I moved in with my sweetie a few months ago.  I am
    still afraid to marry him.  Still will not do a joint account. I am
    trying to trust, I am largely succeeding.
    
    I can forgive my ex for breaking my heart and for breaking his marriage
    vows.  I can even forgive him the debt load.  I have a hard time
    forgiving the loss of trust.  I went to him so open, I am left closed.
    
      Margaret
320.7GLITER::STHILAIREFood, Shelter & DiamondsThu Oct 25 1990 14:4611
    Reading all of the previous replies reminds me of how sad I felt after
    seeing the movie, "On Golden Pond."  As I watched the characters,
    Katherin Hepburn and Henry Fonda, reminiscing about their lives
    together, when they were first dating and first in love, and married,
    and looking back on a lifetime together with one person, I realized for
    the first time that it was something I would never have.  
    
    But, there are other kinds of happiness.
    
    Lorna
    
320.8Only Someone That I Used to Love...HENRYY::HASLAM_BACreativity UnlimitedThu Oct 25 1990 17:3814
    I know what your mean, friends.  I am currently the only married
    single parent I know.  Michael and I live apart and will probably
    continue to do so.  We see each other most weekends, but it just
    doesn't mean the same.  I love him, but I'm no longer "in love"
    with him.  When I see couples who are obviously happy, it really
    hurts inside.  Although I try to get past the pain and accept the
    changes Michael is so obviously trying to make (and succeeding),
    I have admitted that I'll never let him get *really* close to me
    again.
    
    What we have is a marriage of convenience for both of us.  I wonder
    how many more years it can last...
    
    Barb