| Title: | Topics of Interest to Women |
| Notice: | V3 is closed. TURRIS::WOMANNOTES-V5 is open. |
| Moderator: | REGENT::BROOMHEAD |
| Created: | Thu Jan 30 1986 |
| Last Modified: | Fri Jun 30 1995 |
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i would be interested in folks's reactions to the movie 'tie me up,
tie me down', by the spanish director pedro almodovar and currently
in limited release here in the usa (limited partly because it is
'unrated').
personally, i haven't been as angry at a movie for many years.
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| 198.1 | GEMVAX::KOTTLER | Tue Jun 12 1990 13:07 | 4 | ||
I haven't seen it. Why were you angry?
D.
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| 198.2 | What is all about? | DUGGAN::MAHONEY | Tue Jun 12 1990 13:09 | 7 | |
I would love to hear some more from you regarding that movie... I have
not heard a single thing yet. I know he is a young director, very
innovative and very bold, with a good and sharp sense of humor.
What is the theme of the movie or what is all about?
Ana
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| 198.3 | Tie It Up, Send It Back | STAR::RDAVIS | The little light - it goes off! | Tue Jun 12 1990 14:43 | 34 |
It made me furious. I saw it a couple of weeks ago and I'm still
steaming.
The two women I saw it with didn't like it as much as his other movies
but they weren't nearly as upset.
Almodovar is a kind of Spanish John Waters - he's self-consciously
"outrageous". His more recent movies have been more
professional-looking, and a lot of fun ("Women on the Verge of a
Nervous Breakdown") or successfully serious ("Matador"). This latest
piece of doodah, though...
Basically, it starts out as his typical brand of camp cartoony fantasy,
but then becomes painfully realistic - coincidentally, right as the
heroine is attacked and made prisoner by a guy who's obsessed with her.
(Spoiler)
... and continues to be done in a painfully "realistic" style as she
(naturally) falls in love with her captor.
The typical conservative junk: woman as victim, man getting rewarded
for victimizing, the old "all she needed was a good wallop" sort of
thing. Not the cute S&M farce you'd be led to expect from the ads.
(OK, so me and my friends may have odd standards of "cute"...)
What's worse is that there was one excellent explicit sex scene, the
nicest I remember seeing in a mainstream movie and the best moment in
the film - and not only was it stuck unnecessarily in the middle of
this misogynistic trash, but IT was the reason for the fight with the
ratings bureau!
Ray
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| 198.4 | SX4GTO::HOLT | Robert Holt, ISVG West | Tue Jun 12 1990 19:37 | 2 | |
Should the director and the distributors be arrested?
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| 198.5 | Cops - never around when you really need 'em... | STAR::RDAVIS | The little light - it goes off! | Wed Jun 13 1990 10:59 | 4 |
� Should the director and the distributors be arrested?
No, of course not! I LIKE Almodovar. I even like his distributors. I
just hated the movie!
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