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| 1077.1 | thoughts | ULTRA::ZURKO | We're more paranoid than you are. | Thu Apr 05 1990 12:22 | 13 |
| The 'logical' equivalent of the Masons is Easter Star. To join Easter Star you
have to be the wife, mother, sister, daughter or widow of a Mason (there are
also some extensions, like maybe step-daughter, but I forget what they are).
Men are members too, and, in fact, the 'president' is a Worthy Matron and
Worthy Patron (though the Worthy Matron gets the bigger throne).
I go to WITCH lectures, though I don't know if they're a club. I don't know any
of the other attendees (unless they're DECcies or introduced by DECcies), and
it's certainly not national.
And I get a massage monthly. It's a bit of a mystical experience, but it's not
a club.
Mez
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| 1077.2 | | WMOIS::B_REINKE | if you are a dreamer, come in.. | Thu Apr 05 1990 12:24 | 6 |
| Mez,
Just a 'nit' I believe that is the "EasterN' Star....but I could be
wrong.
Bonnie
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| 1077.3 | Bunny Star? :-) | ULTRA::ZURKO | We're more paranoid than you are. | Thu Apr 05 1990 12:31 | 2 |
| snicker; yeah. I didn't spell-check, and it wouldn't have helped anyway.
Mez
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| 1077.4 | | ICESK8::KLEINBERGER | Will 8/4 **ever** get here? | Thu Apr 05 1990 12:34 | 7 |
| Yes, it is indeed Eastern Star with an "N".. There is also Rainbow Girls
and Jobs Daughters for girls aged 12 to 21... For more information
about that organization, you should read ARGUS::MASONIC (KP7 and all
that jazz)...
Gale Kleinberger
Past Matron, OES 1979
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| 1077.5 | | FRECKL::HUTCHINS | Wheeere's that Smith Corona? | Thu Apr 05 1990 13:55 | 25 |
| re Eastern Star et al
In order to gain membership in this group, does one have to be related
to a Mason?
In order to be a Mason, does one have to be related, or is membership
by nomination?
If membership is by nomination, then why is Eastern Star membership by
relation?
What role do these organizations play today? Why is it that men can be
nominated and women have to be related? Each of these orgaizations
have rituals and membership requirements. Once a person is a member,
what do they do?
There have been some important people in history who have been Masons
(Franklin, Jefferson, Washington, to name a few). The rituals have
changed, but the need is still there for social interaction and
community service. Where are people finding these vehicles today? Are
clubs a thing of the past, or are they still strong?
Judi
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| 1077.6 | | ULTRA::ZURKO | We're more paranoid than you are. | Thu Apr 05 1990 14:09 | 27 |
| > re Eastern Star et al
> In order to gain membership in this group, does one have to be related
> to a Mason?
Yes. Which makes it tough if your mom is a widow and she only gave birth to
daughters. No one alive to talk into joining Star.
> In order to be a Mason, does one have to be related, or is membership
> by nomination?
I believe it is by nomination. You probably have to know one (someone probably
has to vouch for his character).
> If membership is by nomination, then why is Eastern Star membership by
> relation?
I don't know. I have philosophical guesses :-). I'm sure my mom tried to
explain it to me. I think it had to do with the Masons starting Star, and
owning the lease on the temple (at least, the one in Milford CT).
> Once a person is a member, what do they do?
Wear dresses and gowns, memorize rituals with lots of quotes from the bible,
and do good deeds. I was a member of Star for a while.
Mez
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| 1077.7 | Hmmm | FRECKL::HUTCHINS | Wheeere's that Smith Corona? | Thu Apr 05 1990 14:49 | 6 |
| Ooooooooooooooh...then you were a good deed doer? (apologies to the
"Wizard of Oz")
;-) ;-) ;-) ;-)
Judi
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| 1077.8 | Other Women's Service Orgs | FSHQA1::AWASKOM | | Thu Apr 05 1990 17:53 | 15 |
| Some other organizations which spring to mind --
The League of Women Voters.
Daughters of the American Revolution.
Junior League
All of these organizations do an incredible amount of civic work, and are
open primarily to women. (I don't know for sure if the Leagues now
accept men, I know the DAR does not.) They don't carry the same
potential for business advancement that Kiwanis, Lions, Rotary, or the
JC's do -- but they are as close as women could get until recently.
Alison
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| 1077.9 | League of Woman Voters | VAXWRK::SKALTSIS | Deb | Thu Apr 05 1990 18:01 | 5 |
| LWV does accept men, although it is still overwhelmingly women,
especially as active members.
Deb
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| 1077.10 | from the Boston Woman's guide to women's groups | SYSENG::BITTLE | good girls make good wives | Thu Apr 05 1990 23:33 | 254 |
| Academic
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American Association of University Women
Boston University Women Graduates Club
Boston University Women's Council
Management Institute for Women in Higher Education
Mary Ingraham Bunting Institute, Radcliffe College
Aging
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Midlife Association
Older Women's League (OWL)
Athletic
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Women's Golf Association of Massachusetts
Children
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Big Sister Association
Patriots Trail Girl Scout Council
Community Service
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Boston Women's Fund
Daughters of the American Revolution
League of Women for Community Service, Inc.
Massachusetts State Federation of Women's Clubs
Mothers Against Drunk Driving (MADD)
National Association of Negro Business and Professional
Women's Clubs, Inc.
Pioneer Women Organization (Na'Amat)
Women's Educational and Industrial Union
Women's Institute for Housing and Economic Development, Inc.
Women's Service Club
Feminist
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Cambridge Women's Center
National Organization for Women (NOW)
New England League of Afro-American Women
Health
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Boston Women's Health Book Collective
The Women's Initiative
Lesbian
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Gay and Lesbian Speakers Bureau
Political
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Asian Sisters in Action
Cambridge Commission on the Status of Women
League of Women Voters
Massachusetts Women's Political Caucus (MWPC)
Women for Economic Justice
Women Elected Municipal Officials (WEMO)
Women's Action for Nuclear Disarmament (WAND)
Women's Equity Action League of Massachusetts
Women's International League for Peace and Freedom
Women's Statewide Legislative Network
Professional
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The Women's Dental Society of Massachusetts
American College of Nurse-Midwives
American Medical Women's Association
American Society of Women Accountants
Association for Women in Computing
Association for Women in Mathematics
Association for Women in Psychology
Association for Women in Science
Association for Part-Time Professionals
Black Women's Network
Boston Business and Professional Women
Boston Network for Women in Politics and Government
Cape Ann Chamber Businesswomen
Career Women of the Combined Jewish Philanthropies
Charlestown Working Women's Network
Coalition of Labor Union Women
Financial Women International (formerly National Association
of Bank Women)
Greater Boston Women's Network
Home-based Business Women's Network
International Association for Personnel Women
Massachusetts Association of Insurance Women
Massachusetts Association of Women Deans, Administrators,
and Counselors
Massachusetts Dental Hygienists Association
National Association of Women in Construction
National Association for Female Executives (Boston/NAFE)
National Women's Book Association
New England Women Business Owners
Nine to Five
North Shore Women in Business
Society of Women Engineers
State Office of Minority Business Assistance
Women Entrepreneurs Home-based Network
Women in Architecture
Women in Business of Boston
Women in Communications, Inc
Women in Film and Video
Women in the Building Trades
Women in World Trade
The Women Sales Network of Boston
Women South of Boston
Women West of Boston
Women's Bar Association
Women's Business Network
Women's Committee of the Service Employees International
Union, Local 509
Women's Culinary Guild of New England
Women's Lunch Group
Women's Success Network
Women's Transportation Seminar
Real Estate
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New England Women in Real Estate (NEWIRE)
Women in Development of Greater Boston
Religious
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Am'it Women
B'nai B'rith Women
Boston Women's Ordination Conference
Church Women United in Massachusetts
National Council of Jewish Women
Unitarian-Universalist Women's Federation
Women's American ORT (Organization for Rehabilitation
through Training)
Women's League for Conservative Judaism
Women's Theological Center
Self-Help
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YWCA, Melnea A. Cass Branch
Social
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Women's City Club
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| 1077.11 | | SYSENG::BITTLE | good girls make good wives | Thu Apr 05 1990 23:38 | 7 |
|
If anyone's interested in addresses for any of the groups
mentioned in -.1, just ask!
nancy b.
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| 1077.12 | | FRECKL::HUTCHINS | Wheeere's that Smith Corona? | Fri Apr 06 1990 09:45 | 32 |
| re .10
Nancy, thank you for that comprehensive list!
In reading through the note, it struck me that the majority were
focused on a particular group or association. Are clubs and
associations becoming specialized?
I have never been a member of the Junior League, but in talking with
several friends about the club, it sounds like the League is trying
very hard to reflect the needs of the community and address important
issues (homelessness, aging, shelters, etc.), but that there is a
struggle with the *membership* that is splitting some clubs. Some
members understand the current issues affecting communities, and others
want to keep the "white glove" social elitist attitude.
Is the difference between men's and women's clubs parallel to men's and
women's differences? What is the charter of these groups? Social
service? Networking? Social interaction?
I used to be a member and officer of Business & Professional Women (a
national organization), but I didn't feel any real cohesiveness in the
group, so I left. I saw the retirees sitting in the same groups
meeting after meeting, and I heard the President (and quite a few
others) address the membership as "the girls". Many of the speakers
were interesting, but after a while, I felt that I was wasting my time
and money.
What *is* the role of clubs today?
Judi
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| 1077.13 | DAR ? | RDVAX::COLLIER | Bruce Collier | Fri Apr 06 1990 14:12 | 5 |
|
In what way is the DAR a social service organization?
- Bruce
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| 1077.14 | y | FSHQA2::AWASKOM | | Fri Apr 06 1990 18:57 | 12 |
| Bruce -
The DAR funds a number of academic programs at the grade school
and high school levels, particularly in the areas of US History
(surprise, surprise :-) ) and American social sciences.
In addition, they do community work of various sorts, depending
on the needs and abilities of their town and members, including
scholarship drives, downtown clean-ups, park and recreational
opportunities, etc. Much of what they do is done fairly quietly.
Alison
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| 1077.15 | query | DECWET::JWHITE | sometimes it rains | Fri Apr 06 1990 19:49 | 4 |
|
what are the requirements to join the d.a.r.? specifically, i'm
curious as to whether black women are eligible.
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| 1077.16 | this was 4 years ago | SYSENG::BITTLE | good girls make good wives | Sat Apr 07 1990 00:50 | 14 |
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re: .15 (Joe White)
I've been ashamed of a (large) scholarship I received from
the DAR since I've read and heard from others about what
a racist organization it is.
I vaguely recall a story about the DAR refusing to admit
a black woman (there have probably been others) who could
prove one of her ancestors fought in the American Revolution.
nancy b.
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| 1077.17 | DAR | RDVAX::COLLIER | Bruce Collier | Sat Apr 07 1990 16:31 | 17 |
| .14 > The DAR funds a number of academic programs . . .
Alison -
I've had a good deal of contact with groups developing social
studies curriculum materials at grade and high school levels, and I've
never heard of DAR involvement. On the other hand, from my impression
of their ideology, I'm not sure I'd welcome it. Could you be more
specific?
The attitude I inherited toward the DAR is epitomized in the
following true story. There was a long tradition that the U.S.
President addressed the annual meeting of the DAR. In 1932, F.D.R.
accepted the usual invitation, and began his speach with the line
"Welcome, fellow immigrants." No President has been invited back,
since.
- Bruce
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| 1077.18 | my impressions of DAR | TLE::D_CARROLL | Sisters are doin' it for themselves | Sat Apr 07 1990 19:55 | 11 |
| As a direct descendent of Governor Bradford (first Gov. of MA) I (and my
mother) qualify to join. I have never had the slightest interest, as
my impression of the DAR is that is a white-glove elitist social
organization that exists solely of letting jet-set socialites feel
superior about themselves. (Sorry if it isn't true, but that is my
impression.) Anyway, my Mom said she always wanted to join and bring
my [black] "baby" (not any more!) brother and freak them all out.
(Obviously she was joking - she wouldn't do anything so crude to Daniel.)
D!
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| 1077.19 | | FSHQA2::AWASKOM | | Mon Apr 09 1990 11:51 | 14 |
| Well, Nancy and the other respondents are why *I* haven't joined
and have no desire to. They *are* racist and there is a *strong*
flavor of 'noblesse oblige' about their approach to what they do.
I'm really not into feeling superior to anyone simply because a
marvelous choice of parents :-) gave me some opportunities others haven't
had. I've been pretty heavily 'recruited' by them a couple of times,
which is why I know about some of what they do. (My grandmother
was president of her chapter, my mother never bothered but was active
in other 'social service' volunteer work.)
However, the original basenote asked for service organizations which
are available for women. And I provided the few that I knew about.
Alison
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| 1077.20 | | FRECKL::HUTCHINS | Wheeere's that Smith Corona? | Mon Apr 09 1990 13:50 | 25 |
| re .19
Alison,
In the basenote, I queried the purpose of clubs today. There seems to
be a vast difference between men's and women's clubs, and I was
wondering why and what use they serve.
There are many service groups today, but few of the clubs like Masons
and Bohemians (to name but 2) which are available for men only.
At this point in time, membership in a club is not a priority for me,
but that may change. When I look at what is available, what will I
find? What is the charter of today's clubs? As a member, what would
be expected of me and what would I receive in exchange for dues?
Why would a person want to join a club? Is membership flagging in some
organizations because the club has not kept pace with the times, or
because the members have somehow "outgrown" the club? Clubs used to be
a vital part of the community, and some seem to be going through some
difficult times.
Judi
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| 1077.21 | Junior League | SQLRUS::THATTE | Nisha Thatte | Thu Apr 12 1990 17:52 | 9 |
|
I have always been curious about the Junior League. I have heard that basically
you have to have been a debutante and have a trust fund with at least 6 digits
to be a member. Is that true or was someone just joking around and I believed
them?
-- Nisha
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| 1077.22 | A matter of choice | FRICK::HUTCHINS | Wheeere's that Smith Corona? | Fri Apr 13 1990 09:01 | 16 |
| re .21
Nisha,
This is the bone of contention for many JL clubs today. Part of the
membership wants to maintain the debutante image and the other part
recognizes the reality of a membership which addresses the needs of
women today - minorities, working women, social issues, community work,
etc. Not too long ago, half of the Worcester board resigned because of
this split. I don't know what the current philosophy is on this one.
I didn't join because this club didn't offer what I was looking for.
For many women, especially newcomers to a town, it offers many
activities and suits their needs.
Judi
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| 1077.23 | Are there still CR groups? | GEMVAX::KOTTLER | | Wed Apr 18 1990 12:59 | 1 |
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