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Conference turris::womannotes-v2

Title:ARCHIVE-- Topics of Interest to Women, Volume 2 --ARCHIVE
Notice:V2 is closed. TURRIS::WOMANNOTES-V5 is open.
Moderator:REGENT::BROOMHEAD
Created:Thu Jan 30 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 30 1995
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1105
Total number of notes:36379

1066.0. "What can WOMEN do to stop sexual child abuse?" by --UnknownUser-- () Fri Mar 30 1990 12:42

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1066.1pointersLEZAH::BOBBITTthe phoenix-flowering dark roseFri Mar 30 1990 13:108
    in addition to the ensuing discussion, see also
    
    PARENTING
    1194 - child abuse - how can we help?
    1523 - preventing sexual abuse of children
    
    -Jody
    
1066.2some thoughtsTINCUP::KOLBEThe dilettante debutanteFri Mar 30 1990 20:1414
    I suspect that a close look at women who "stand by" while their
    children are molested would show a similarity to women who are abused
    themselves by their husbands. These are women who can not leave the
    situation (yes, physically they could but not emotionally) and are
    afraid of rocking the boat.

    Men have an alarming emotional control over this type of woman. She has
    a low self-esteem and may have been abused herself as a child. The idea
    of crossing her husband might be one of justified fear. Perhaps they
    couldn't survive financially without him. Perhaps he'd come after them
    if they left. These are all issues that happen and the police rarely
    help. And what would the rest of the family say? His relatives probably
    wouldn't believe it. How many of these men have good reputations in
    their community? And would the neighbors believe her? liesl
1066.3Regarding:Letting it HappenUSCTR2::DONOVANFri Mar 30 1990 23:535
    I guess it must be tough for some to understand the powerlessness
    that an abused mother must feel.
    
    Kate
    
1066.4CSC32::CONLONLet the dreamers wake the nation...Sat Mar 31 1990 00:3722
    	In the cases that have been publicized recently (about women
    	fleeing with their children - or hiding their children with
    	relatives - to countries around the world) - it seems that one
    	of the quickest ways for a woman to lose custody of a child is
    	to make a claim that the father is committing sexual abuse.
    
    	In most of the cases I've seen, charges of molestation are treated
    	as a sign that the Mother is vindictive, mentally unbalanced, and
    	unfit as a Mother.
    
    	In light of this, I wouldn't blame women for being exceptionally
    	reluctant to bring evidence about child abuse to light (as tragic
    	as this sounds.)
    
    	When they catch up to the fleeing Mother and child, American courts
    	rush the child back to full custody for the Father (and put the Mother
    	in jail for kidnapping.)
    
    	My prediction is that the instance of reported molestation will go
    	way down (leading people to believe that it wasn't that big of a 
    	problem in the first place) because it has become too dangerous to
    	report.  
1066.6Reply to HerbUSCTR2::DONOVANSun Apr 01 1990 00:0821
    Herb,
    
    I guess it's me but I'm having a hard time understanding exactly what
    you meant by your last note.
    
    Boys are victims of sexual abuse far less often than girls. Although
    the intrusion is just as wrong, it is far less prevolent. 
    
    Did you say that because male victims of sexual abuse wrestle with the
    stigma of homosexality at a young age which allows them to accept homo-
    sexuality as adults? What a dreadful thought.
    
    Abuse by a male is certainly as discusting a crime as abuse by a woman.
    I do know that the vast majority of abuse is done by men. I know the
    statistics have been quoted in here at least 10 times.
    
    As a side comment, I think child rapists and molesters should suffer
    the same penalties as murderers. There is no more violent a crime.
    
    Kate
    
1066.8Some Perspectives/RamblingsGUCCI::SANTSCHITue Apr 03 1990 16:3834
    Herb,
    
    In reading this and the other related notestring, I believe that
    you are really interested in exploring the "why" of the abuse. 
    To that end, you and the other noters are conducting a very rational
    and civilized discussion, which I am now proud to be a contributor.
    
    In my mind, POWER over another who is perceived as weaker is the
    motivating factor in child abuse of all kinds.  In our society,
    with power vested in males, the natural prey is women and children.
     I also think that women who abuse are "exercising" this power over
    a weaker entity.  I have noticed that abused children often abuse
    those weaker than themselves, younger children and pets.
    
    I agree that we, society, need to empower women to stop the abuse
    cycle, but as has been stated here it is very difficult to convince
    women to leave situations where abuse is occuring due to self esteem
    issues, financial concerns, and other reasons.  More work in this
    area must be done, support centers and other programs would be useful.
    
    I also agree with the observation that when women claim abuse of
    their children, the childrens' custody is awarded to the fathers
    and the mother is jailed/sanctioned.  This will indeed lower the
    incidence of reportings.  Maybe judges need some more education
    in this area, so they can render more humane judgments.  After all,
    judges are supposedly acting in the "best interests of the child."
    
    As we can all see, this is a very difficult topic but I appreciate
    everyone's concern in helping these children.
    
    Sue