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Conference turris::womannotes-v2

Title:ARCHIVE-- Topics of Interest to Women, Volume 2 --ARCHIVE
Notice:V2 is closed. TURRIS::WOMANNOTES-V5 is open.
Moderator:REGENT::BROOMHEAD
Created:Thu Jan 30 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 30 1995
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1105
Total number of notes:36379

835.0. "FGD: Can I really make a difference?" by MOSAIC::TARBET (Sama budu polevat') Thu Oct 19 1989 12:47

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835.1TOMK::KRUPINSKIOllie would have got 'emThu Oct 19 1989 13:097
	Yes, of course you can make a difference. But the real question
	is to what degree, and in what direction. Sometimes the difference
	a person makes in anothers life is unintentional. Often if 
	fostering a change is intentional, the change made is not the 
	one intended. Life is an art, not a science.

						Tom_K
835.2ParadoxCURIE::HAROUTIANMon Dec 18 1989 13:4331
    Yes, you can make "a" difference.  Question is, which difference, to
    whom.
    
    You can't change your wife.  Only she is in control of that, and it
    sounds like she doesn't recognize yet that she has choices in that
    matter, because she hasn't yet worked through enough of the "stuff"
    from her family-of-origin and previous relationships.
    
    I noticed in the SRO string several references to doing specific
    "little things" to make her happy.  I've been there.  It doesn't work. 
    I came from a pretty heavily dysfunctional family.  My husband tried
    the "little things" routine for YEARS and it didn't work.  You see, a
    trust problem is self-perpetuating: for every one nice thing you do,
    there are always 20 or 100 "not nice" or even "didn't know it wasn't
    nice" things that the nontrusting person holds on to.
    
    Someone else's reply got at the issue of "why did you pick her".  It
    takes two: in the case of myself and my husband, he was acting out a
    "family hero" routine...not in touch AT ALL with his own pain, and kept
    it that way by rescuing me.   That is, all his good intentions of
    helping me/supporting me ALSO contributed to keep him focused somewhere
    other than his own recovery process.  Cruel sort of paradox, isn't it? 
    
    Not an easy problem to work through; includes lots of pain and
    self-examination and more pain.  Keep working at it.  How long have you
    been in counseling?  If you don't feel it's working with that
    counselor, have you considered finding another?  (Not all are created
    equally competent). 
    
    Best wishes,
    Lynn