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Conference turris::womannotes-v2

Title:ARCHIVE-- Topics of Interest to Women, Volume 2 --ARCHIVE
Notice:V2 is closed. TURRIS::WOMANNOTES-V5 is open.
Moderator:REGENT::BROOMHEAD
Created:Thu Jan 30 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 30 1995
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1105
Total number of notes:36379

819.0. "Welcome to America the Great????" by BUSY::KUHLMANN () Fri Oct 06 1989 13:19

Please note this is just one person's opinion!
    
    We as America, whether be a small group or a large group of us
    are screaming for justice, want to see changes made in our society,
    but are we really ready for some of the changes that it might place
    in our daily lives???
    
    	MOST of us agree that America drives too fast, the speed limits
    vary between 55-65 on most major freeways and normally most drivers
    speed along at 55-90- don't laugh try driving at rush hour in the
    fast lane..... Car makers advertise cars that go 140mph, and make
    this the #1 selling feature of the car (VW's new car). What is this
    doing for the population that like speed?? Encourging people to
    go fast....Me think a double message is here, Most everybody is
    screaming that people drive too fast but yet look how cars are made
    today...FAST.
    
    	We are thinking about justice, showing only the poorer sides
    of any minority and if the media does show ANY minority doing good
    making it in the world today they are treated  with oddity....
    Is this equal treatment...
    	A woman who is married and goes to bed with a flimsy nightie
    on and her husband forces sex and a rpae charge is substantied but
    some woman on the street of America wears some Doubtful clothing
    on the streets of America and sex is forced or her by some strange
    man, and She asked for it????
    
    	I am sorry people in this notes file... I am thinking America
    has some strange thinking. America the country where the immgrants
    flee to by boat, train, bus, whatever methods they can find,
    They find corrupt judicial systems, corrupt thinking, they find
    an America saying one thing, and doing another.
    
    	I am remind of one of Aseop's fables:: Do as I say not as I
    do.
    
    	Welcome to America the Great. Humph!! Watch our Flag burn!!!
    No thanks, I know too many that lost their lives trying to protect
    it and what it Stands for!
    
    	I guess I am just a little disgusted with Justice and needed
    to vent
    
    
    
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819.1WAHOO::LEVESQUEThe trigger doesn't pull the fingerFri Oct 06 1989 14:3241
 I'll address one aspect of your note.

>    	MOST of us agree that America drives too fast, 

 False. If the speed limits are too high, why do so many people exceed them?
Answer: because they are too low, people don't respect them because they
are too low, and because a speed limit isn't really a limit, it's a ballpark
figure to shoot for (on the low side). If REASONABLE limits were put on speed,
people would obey. Then they could indeed be enforced as maximum limits. Since
the speed limits are too low, so many people exceed them that it is impossible 
to practically use them as a maximum speed.

>don't laugh try driving at rush hour in the
>    fast lane..... 
 
 Yeah- you go about 15 mph on most roads.

>Car makers advertise cars that go 140mph, and make
>    this the #1 selling feature of the car (VW's new car). 

 You object to their marketing scheme? If it didn't sell, they wouldn't do it.

>What is this
>    doing for the population that like speed?? 

Huh?

>Me think a double message is here, Most everybody is
>    screaming that people drive too fast but yet look how cars are made
>    today...FAST.

 If most everybody is "screaming" that people drive too fast, they must be
doing it from a speeding car, because the majority of drivers on most roads
exceed the speed limit (and many more would if there was no enforcement of
the limit).

 Sorry- you just pressed a hot button of mine.

 We now return to our regularly scheduled program...

 The Doctah
819.2PointerREGENT::BROOMHEADDon't panic -- yet.Fri Oct 06 1989 15:189
    Uh?  Mr. Kuhlmann?
    
    The "Hot Buttons" note is note 5.
    
    (I mention this because *I* have a superstitious fear of starting
    a new note for a subject that already has its own note.  (Your
    mileage (Sorry :-) may vary.))
    
    						Ann B.
819.3good pointer, wrong genderWMOIS::B_REINKEif you are a dreamer, come in..Fri Oct 06 1989 15:285
    um, Ann,
    
    that's Ms or Miss Kuhlman, first name Lise or I miss my guess.
    
    Bonnie
819.4Asking this be moved to proper topic.BUSY::KUHLMANNFri Oct 06 1989 15:566
    Please note I have asked the moderators to move this note to the
    hot button or what ever it is called topic. Thanks for pointing
    it out to me....
    
    Lise 
    MS. Kuhlmann
819.5MOSAIC::TARBETSama budu polevat'Fri Oct 06 1989 16:127
                          <** Moderator Response **>

    I didn't move it because it seemed as much a leadin to an interesting
    new topic as it did a Hot Button.  I still think so, and I hope other
    people will agree enough to get it going.
    
    						=maggie
819.7If you don't like it, fix it.IAMOK::KOSKIThis ::NOTE is for youMon Oct 09 1989 13:5415
    Re discussion of speed, please take it to ACCARS::CARBUFFS. It is a
    more apropriate note for such discusion (a favorite of mine)
    
    Re the general message of the base note...
    
    The problems of saying one thing and doing another is not unique to
    America. My feeling is that in the US we all have the opportunity to
    (stop bitchin and) do something about it! Citizens of other nations do
    not have that option. When I see the type of editorial as in the base
    note, I wonder what the writer is doing about it? We can drive change
    if we are motivated.
    
    We all have our issues with the system...
    
    Gail
819.9for the record...DECWET::JWHITEI&#039;m pro-choice and I voteMon Oct 09 1989 16:354
    
    re:.8
    some do not agree with this assesment
    
819.10for the confused... .8 is goneREGENT::BROOMHEADDon&#039;t panic -- yet.Tue Oct 10 1989 10:590