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Conference turris::womannotes-v2

Title:ARCHIVE-- Topics of Interest to Women, Volume 2 --ARCHIVE
Notice:V2 is closed. TURRIS::WOMANNOTES-V5 is open.
Moderator:REGENT::BROOMHEAD
Created:Thu Jan 30 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 30 1995
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1105
Total number of notes:36379

791.0. "Designing Women Episode" by WOODRO::KEITH (Real men double clutch) Thu Sep 14 1989 21:22

    I was reading some notes back a ways  on the Father's Day protest
    which inspired? me to write this.
    
    I watch Designing Women pretty regularly. It is a pretty
    good/interesting/funny show. Lately, they have been dealing with
    some adult subjects/language.
    
    I had a particular problem with one the other week on pornography.
    One of the leading characters, Dixie <something> decided to protest
    the porn shop near their place of employment. Seems they had a standing
    poster board depicting some magazine (porn) with a just legal cover.
    Anyway, Dixie has an 'accident' and destroys the sign. She admits
    that she destroyed the sign and offers her license # etc. The porn
    shop owner installs a new sign. Dixie has another 'accident'. Ditto
    Again, at the end of the show, you hear a crash, presumably, she
    hit it again.
    
               MY QUESTION/WHAT BOTHERED ME
    
    If she did this in real life, she would be in big trouble!
    	-Her insurance would be cancelled
    	-Her drivers liscense would be revoked/suspended
    	-She might be put in jail if she did not honor a ciest (sp) and
          desist order that a judge might put on her for malicious (sp)
          damage.
    
    I understand what she was trying to say/do. However, it is like
    people getting shot on TV and there is no pain, or blood, or
    disability. In other words, no reality to real life. Impressionable
    young people might be watching.
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791.1least there was a messageIAMOK::ALFORDI&#039;d rather be fishingFri Sep 15 1989 09:2116
    
    Well, who ever said tv emulated reality?  At least some 'message' was
    put forth in the show....instead of mindless dribble which many shows
    seem to offer.  As for the issues you raised, which might happen
    in real life...I don't live in Georgia, so can't comment on the laws
    there...however I have lived places where it took three incidents to
    get insurance involved, and license revokation essentially only occured
    when you had multiple dwi's or injurious (sp) accidents.  So, Dixie
    Carter knocking down some sidewalk sign twice wouldn't have caused
    any big deal.  As for the show, i seem to recall she DID go to jail,
    and only because the company decided not to press charges was she
    released.  
    
    just my 2 cents
    deb
    
791.3Ruffled *your* feathers, eh? :) CSC32::CONLONFri Sep 15 1989 12:467
    	RE: .2
    
    	Well, it sounds like they hit a couple of *your* hot spots,
    	Eagles.
    
    	I'll have to remind myself to watch it more often.  :-)
    
791.4my rights and your noseAZTECH::KOLBEThe dilettante debutanteFri Sep 15 1989 13:0320
    I saw the episode the first time it aired and was somewhat disturbed
    by it. I felt Dixie was dangerously close to violating the first
    amendment rights of the stand owner. This was a vigilante tactic and
    not the way I feel things should be done. What's different between
    this and the Klu Klux Klan deciding that they will violate the civil
    rights act?

    We have to respect the rights of people we do not agree with just as
    we must protect those of the people and ideas we do agree with.
    Women will never "free and equal" if we choose the route of
    violating the freedoms of others to get there. There are some
    protions of the Women's movement that come too close to the orthodox
    conservative movement for my taste.

    Whenever you have real freedom some people will take it to the
    extreme just to test the system. Some people will do that because
    they are pond scum (Larry Flint of Hustler fame). And some people
    will do it because it's necessary to illustrate a point about how
    free we really are. If the majority of the population pushes the
    edges then maybe the edges need to be moved out. liesl
791.5ASABET::STRIFEFri Sep 15 1989 16:249
    I don't think that the show condoned her behavior.  In fact, MaryJo 
    said that what Julia was doing was wrong and that it was censorship.
    None of the other characters on the show applauded her behavior and 
    I thought that the behavior was protrayed as an extreme response not 
    an acceptable one.
    
    I think that th show very often does a great job of getting a meesage
    across.
    
791.6SUBSYS::NEUMYERFri Sep 15 1989 17:098
    
    
    I think that the show started getting too message oriented.
    
    
    BTW wasn't the owner of the magazine a woman?
    
    ed
791.7MAMIE::KEITHReal men double clutchMon Sep 18 1989 08:2411
    RE -.1
    
    That was the episode a week before. It was done better and got the
    point across.
    
    RE original
    
    I think if you count the crash at the end, it was 4 times she destroyed
    the sign. 
    
    Steve
791.8Just another commentCSC32::BATCHELORMon Sep 18 1989 16:0118
Hi,

Never before have I been prompted to reply to a note, but this one was of
particular interest to me.

I watched this particular episode of both the first showing and rerun.

the comment I found interesting in the show was made by Dixie, she stated
'If a black person were portrayed the same way as the woman was, in bondage,
 it would be a different story', or words to that effect. I believe earlier
in the show the poster had been described as that of a woman in a dog collar
with chains, etc.   Anyway, I found the comment interesting.

What would have happened if it had been a child portrayed in the same manner?

Just a thought,

Sandy
791.9Love That ShowUSEM::DONOVANMon Sep 18 1989 16:445
    I just LOVE that show! Dixie's just great! But remember, it's only
    T.V.
    
    Kate
    
791.10An Exaggeration of Real LifeBUSY::DKHANWed Sep 20 1989 15:0217
    I agree with .5 nd .8.
    
    The other characters did not condone her actions, and it is
    definitley true that opinions would differ if the poster depicted
    a black person or a child.
    
    Censorship is tricky. On the one hand, I certainly wouldn't appreciate
    such a poster displayed on the street corner for my children to
    see, but it is the "displayer's" right. 
    
    You could watch a Bugs Bunny Cartoon and say, "He couldn't do that
    in real life and not be in trouble!" But again, it <<is>> television.
    Sitcoms are only realistic to a point. And come to think of it,
    they are funny because they are an exaggeration of real life.
                                              
    I love "Designing Women". I think it's one of the better shows on
    t.v.