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Conference turris::womannotes-v2

Title:ARCHIVE-- Topics of Interest to Women, Volume 2 --ARCHIVE
Notice:V2 is closed. TURRIS::WOMANNOTES-V5 is open.
Moderator:REGENT::BROOMHEAD
Created:Thu Jan 30 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 30 1995
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1105
Total number of notes:36379

774.0. "Unspecific letter addressee" by WOODRO::KEITH (Real men double clutch) Fri Sep 01 1989 09:31

    What sort of description do you use for a gender neutral unspecific
    letter?
    
    Dear Sir:
    
    <text>
    
    Dear Sir or Madam?          --- doesn't sound good 'madam'
    
    To Whoma it may concern?    --- terrible

    
    Hey you?
    
    
    
    My wife and I tried to think of what was correct the other day.
    
    Steve
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774.1quick ideasWMOIS::B_REINKEIf you are a dreamer, come in..Fri Sep 01 1989 09:487
    Greetings:
    
    Gentlepersons:
    
    Dear Sir or Madam is acceptable
    
    
774.2"Greetings" brings back a certain chill...STAR::BECKThe question is - 2B or D4?Fri Sep 01 1989 10:354
    "Greetings" might not be too good if the recipient is male and of
    Viet Nam era age. Aside from that, it's probably the most generic.

    How about "Yo!"?
774.3Dear <title>IAMOK::KOSKIThis indecision&#039;s bugging meFri Sep 01 1989 10:456
    With business letters you might be able to refer to the title of the
    person you are writing to . eg: Dear Customer Service Representitive
    or Dear Marketing Director:  It seems long for a salutation but it
    makes sense when you read it.
    
    Gail
774.4Greetings???MSDOA::MCMULLINFri Sep 01 1989 11:054
    re .2:
    
    I'm a little young for the Nam era!! Please explain what the Greetings
    pertains to!!  Thanks.
774.5WOODRO::KEITHReal men double clutchFri Sep 01 1989 11:1217
    RE .3
    
    I think that is the answer. Good job.
    
    RE .4

    Back in the old days (the 60's)
        
    You were notified to report for you predraft physical with a letter
    that started "Greetings..."
    
    If you passed your physical, You might expect another letter "Greetings"
    except this letter was the real thing. "You will report..." (you are
    drafted)

    
    Steve   Am I really that old?
774.7Turn-About's FairBARTLE::GODINThis is the only world we haveFri Sep 01 1989 15:235
    Whenever in doubt and I'm corresponding about my own business (i.e.,
    not Digital's), I gleefully turn the tables of all those years of
    "Dear Sir"-ing and simply put "Dear Madam."
    
    Karen
774.8getting names is a good ideaTLE::RANDALLliving on another planetFri Sep 01 1989 15:4313
    Sometimes I use the "Dear Madam" approach, giggling to myself. 
    But if it's something important, I try to find out the name of a
    responsible person -- it generates a better response.
    
    Usually a receptionist will tell you the name and mailing address
    of the officially responsible person in various areas.  I once
    called the receptionist at the tourist office for General Mills
    and got the name and address of the person in charge of personnel
    relations, who answered my questions politely and promptly.  I
    suspect that if I'd just sent it "to whom it may concern" in an
    office, it would have gone unanswered.
    
    --bonnie
774.10"People"?AQUA::WAGMANQQSVFri Sep 01 1989 18:0311
In a serious business letter I wouldn't be willing to greet an anonymous per-
son with "Yo!", even though it might be satisfying.  Often, I will just omit
a salutation entirely (after including my address and their name and address
as part of the header).

One possibile salutation that I saw used by my University student newspaper
and which I have used myself from time to time is "People".  I'm unsure how
such a salutation would affect an older reader, though.  How would any of
you react to such a greeting in a letter?

					--Q (Dick Wagman)
774.11Folks, ?SCARY::M_DAVISDictated, but not read.Fri Sep 01 1989 18:091
    
774.12Another idea...DEMING::FOSTERFri Sep 01 1989 18:108
    In such cases, I usually begin a letter with either:
    
    	Hello!
    
    	Hi!
    
    or either of the above with a colon if I'm not all that excited
    about stuff! :-)  
774.13Nice greetingsAQUA::WAGMANQQSVFri Sep 01 1989 18:267
Hello!

Hi!

I like those.  Thanks for the idea, 'Ren.

						--Q
774.14Errant PedantryULTRA::WITTENBERGSecure Systems for Insecure PeopleMon Sep 04 1989 12:507
RE: .5 

    The selective   service   letters   started   "Greeting...",   not
    "Greetings...".  The  only  place I know of that uses the singular
    is the U.S. Draft boards.  I don't know why they do it.

--David
774.15Omit itQUARK::LIONELFree advice is worth every centMon Sep 04 1989 17:466
    I read a suggestion in one of the advice columns to do away with
    the greeting altogether.  Since in the form for a business letter you
    have the addressee above the text of the letter, the salutation is
    redundant (and silly when you don't know whom you're addressing).
    
    				Steve
774.16LEZAH::BOBBITTinvictus maneoTue Sep 05 1989 15:5310
    I generally, when addressing people I don't know whose attention
    I'd like to get, begin the letter,
    
    Good Day:
    
    which helps start off on the right foot.  And I try to phrase
    everything as positively as possible.  Even when I'm complaining.
    
    -Jody
    
774.17SX4GTO::HOLTRobert Holt @ UCSTue Sep 05 1989 21:023
    
    If something comes to me addressed to "Resident" or "To Whom...",
    I trash it.
774.18STAR::BECKThe question is - 2B or D4?Wed Sep 06 1989 01:113
    I understand that Maynard T. Resident of Sioux Falls MN has instituted
    a reverse class action suit against all citizens of the United States
    for tampering with his mail...
774.19heh heh nice tryMOSAIC::TARBETSama sadik ya sadila...Wed Sep 06 1989 13:431
    Sioux Falls is in South Dakota, Paul.
774.20RUBY::BOYAJIANWhen in Punt, doubtSat Sep 09 1989 11:095
    re:.19 re:.18
    
    Right. It's *Frostbite* Falls that's in Minnesota.
    
    --- jerry