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771.1 | One way to find out | MAY20::MINOW | Pere Ubu is coming soon, are you ready? | Wed Aug 30 1989 23:48 | 5 |
| You might consider calling your local United Way to see whether they
support Planned Parenthood.
M.
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771.2 | mine goes to Dane Cty, WI (for groundhog rehab) | LDP::SCHNEIDER | possessive of YOU = YOUR | Thu Aug 31 1989 00:29 | 5 |
| And remember that you have the option of (theoretically, at least)
targeting a specific local UW chapter to receive your donation.
Your site's UW coordinator can supply the magic codes needed.
Chuck
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771.3 | my 2 cents | IAMOK::ALFORD | I'd rather be fishing | Thu Aug 31 1989 09:51 | 16 |
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Usually with all the UW literature there is a list of the organizations
which UW supports....reading thru it may highlight some groups you
know which hold opposing views to your own...
re: .2
Yes, you can designate your $$$, but as I had it explained to me,
that only means UW tallies up total designated, and if it exceeds
what they planned to give to that org, then they give that total...
else they give what they planned all along...so your $$$ really
go to UW to distribute as they see fit...
which is my biggest complaint, as many of the groups they
support, I would not choose to...
deb
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771.4 | | PEAKS::OAKEY | Take Back America, 1989 | Thu Aug 31 1989 09:53 | 36 |
| One thing to keep in mind is that when you target an organization, you probably
are not boosting the donations to that organization at all, because though UW
will give all your moneys to that company, your targeting of the organization
'frees' up other moneys to go elsewhere. For example, let's say there are two
donators to UW, A, who donates $20 and B, who donates $40 and two organizations
who would receive 50% each of the donations. If neither A nor B specified where
their donations are to go, the disbursement would go something like this:
Org 1 Org 2 Total
A: $10 $10 $20
B: $20 $20 $40
Total: $30 $30 $60
Now, if A specifies all his or her $20 are to be given to Org 1, UW uses the
unspecified moneys of B to even things out, and it looks like this:
Org 1 Org 2 Total
A: $20 $0 $20
B: $10 $30 $40
Total: $30 $30 $60
Note that though A specified where his or her funds were to be used, the
difference comes out in the wash.
Therefore unless *many* people specify organizations, *you* specifying
the target of *your* moneys will have no effect.
You may want to take this into consideration if you have any political, moral
or religious differences with any of the United Way agencies. In addition,
if you donate directly to the organization that you want to support, Digital
will still match dollar for dollar your donation and the organization will
receive $1 for every $1 you put toward it, rather than UWs $0.90 for every $1.
Roger
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771.5 | I give to the organizations of *my* choice... | WAYLAY::GORDON | bliss will be the death of me yet... | Thu Aug 31 1989 10:06 | 8 |
| Or, you could always choose to *not* give any money to United Way, and
give freely to the organization of your choice.
Personally, the fastest way not to get any money from me is to push me
to contribute. The Digital United Way drive triggers this reflex every year.
--D
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771.6 | | HYDRA::SCHMIDT | Bush: Triumph of rites over rights | Thu Aug 31 1989 12:37 | 12 |
| A few years ago, when I asked a NH United Way worker, I was told
they definitely did not give any money to Planned Parenthood.
(She apparently though that was a "positive" attribute as it
saved hassles over abortion funding.) I then explained my position
and stated that I would henceforth give my money to organizations
which had the courage of their convictions, rather than a "Let's
not risk offending anyone" sensibility.
Disclaimer: I don't know if the situation with NH United Way has
changed.
Atlant
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771.7 | | TLE::RANDALL | living on another planet | Thu Aug 31 1989 15:10 | 19 |
| Generally your plant's United Way coordinator can answer questions
about which organizations are supported and why.
We don't contribute to United Way, preferring to support a variety
of charitable and cultural organizations -- Nashua Soup Kitchen,
the American Stage Festival, a couple of handicapped veterans'
organizations, etc. Most of them are local.
Scanning the United Way lists always leaves me with the impression
that UW supports organizations palatable to white middle class
donors -- not political or controversial, full of cute kids that
it's easy to feel sorry for -- not organizations that are really
down in the trenches dealing with the problems of drugs, racism,
ignornance, and failed educational systems. Not that there's
anything wrong with the organizations that are on the acceptable
list, but too many of the organizations doing really useful work
are't on the list.
--bonnie
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771.8 | Third Option UW donations | MISFIT::SCHLITZERM | Mary Ann | Thu Sep 07 1989 03:08 | 22 |
| Re .3 and .4
Some United Way's (such as Rochester) have a THIRD option available to
people who want to specify a specific Non-United Way Agency. The
Non-United Way organization must request to be placed on the THIRD option
list, meet the not-for-profit criteria and allow the United Way to take a
12.5% processing fee from your donation...but since the organization does
not have a United Way budget amount it does not effect the total $ they get.
The organization get all the donations minus 12.5%. You can only chose
1 organization to get your donation.
United Way is really pushed hard by employers in our town and those of
us who do not agree with the practice can chose to have our donation go
to something we really support such as the local volunteer fire
department. I am a volunteer in that department and we get about
$3,000 a year through the Third Option United Way donation plan from
about 60 families which is about $52.00 a family or about $42.00 more
than the average family donates to our fund drive. United Way also
sends us a list of every doner(if they requested a reply) so that we
may thank them and not bug them with our fund drive mailing. We also
ask them if their employer will match their donation!
So my attitude has changed a little if you can't bet them join them and
use them to your benefit.
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771.10 | | PEAKS::OAKEY | Freedom March, 1989 | Thu Sep 07 1989 13:20 | 10 |
| Re: <<< Note 771.8 by MISFIT::SCHLITZERM "Mary Ann" >>>
>> The organization get all the donations minus 12.5%. You can only chose
>> 1 organization to get your donation.
If you can only specify one, why not donate directly, fill out the
matching donation stuff yourself, and the org will get 100% of your
money rather than 87.5%?
Roak
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771.11 | possible reasons to go UW | LDP::SCHNEIDER | possessive of YOU = YOUR | Thu Sep 07 1989 13:49 | 13 |
| Why not donate directly? Perhaps because of the...
(attitude on) - workplace pressure to donate to UW
(attitude off) - convenience (even less paperwork than matching forms)
- painlessness of small weekly paycheck deductions
- hope that someone at UW has checked out what might
otherwise be a totally unknown final recipient
I do both, but the info here has me thinking about switching entirely
AWAY from UW.
Chuck
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771.12 | Obligatory Cross Reference | 2EASY::CONLIFFE | Cthulhu Barata Nikto | Thu Sep 07 1989 15:23 | 7 |
| The "United Way" campaign has been discussed in the HUMAN::DIGITAL
notes conference, in notes 185.* and 392.*
Press <SELECT> or <KP7> to add HUMAN::DIGITAL to your notebook...
Nigel
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771.13 | They make it harder to cancel | TLE::LIONEL | Steve Lionel | Thu Sep 07 1989 23:42 | 10 |
| Something I discovered last year that is very little known - my manager
didn't know and neither did my PSA until she started getting a flood
of pledge cards back...
If you currently have a United Way deduction and want to cancel it, it
is NOT sufficient to simply write "0" in the contribution field of the
pledge form. You must visit your PSA and fill out a United Way
change form, and check off the "Cancellation" box.
Steve
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771.14 | Standard Evaluation Procedure | GAMETE::HAIGHT | | Fri Sep 08 1989 13:26 | 19 |
| The base note used the word "bias". Do you mean "in favor of" or
"not in favor of"?
The United Way selects supported organizations based upon a criteria
of Community Benefit Standards and Gov't SEC Non-Profit Organization
Compliance.
There are 1 or 2 UW organizations in Detroit that "support" abortion
efforts. There are at least that many that "support" abortion by
education (i.e. like Planned Parenthood, which does not comply with
the UW restrictions for "Non-Profit" designation), unwed mothers'
housing and job programs, etc.
The UW does NOT take a stand on abortion or any other controversial
issue (such as AIDS clinics). They simply take "Requests for UW
Funding Assistance" forms and run their standard 1-2 yr. evaluation
on the agency.
(Speaking as former 2-Year UW Chair for East Central...)
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771.15 | | XCUSME::KRUY | There Ain't No Justice | Mon Sep 11 1989 20:15 | 10 |
|
> The base note used the word "bias".
Intentionally. I personally would be very unhappy if my
potential contributions were going to support organizations
that were against my beliefs.
> Do you mean "in favor of" or "not in favor of"?
Irrelevant.
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771.16 | | PMROAD::JEFFRIES | | Tue Sep 12 1989 12:23 | 18 |
| re..13 Steve..
The Campaign runs from Jan. to Dec., if you mark your card in Sept
or Oct, it isn't effective until the following Jan. If you want
to cancel your contribution other than at the beginning of the calendar
year, yes you do have to visit your PSA and fill out a United Way
change form.
re..8
The best way to insure that 100% of your contribution goes to a
Non-United Way agency is to give through the matching gifts program.
You can give to as many agencies as you want and can give up to
$1000 per calendar year per agency.
+pat+_who_is_working_in_the_Corperate_Community_Relations_office_for_the_
United_Way_and_Matching_gifts.
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771.17 | That's not how it worked for me | QUARK::LIONEL | Free advice is worth every cent | Wed Sep 13 1989 01:17 | 21 |
| Re: .16
Pat, all I can tell you is what my PSA told me and what my personal
experience was. If you are currently having money deducted for
United Way, and simply mark "zero" on your pledge card as a way of
eliminating the deduction, what will happen is that you will (some
months later) get the card returned to your PSA (and then to you) with
a note attached saying that the ONLY way to eliminate the deduction,
no matter when you want to do it, is to fill out the form with your
PSA. This is what happened to me last year.
My PSA said that the first she knew about it last year was when she
suddenly received hundreds of cards back for this very reason. I
consider it a rather sneaky attempt to make it hard for people to
stop a deduction.
By the way, attached to the pledge forms is a list of organizations
that each United Way chapter supports. This can be handy for those
who want to decide whether to contribute and if so, to which chapter.
Steve
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771.18 | planned parenthood will get a bonus | DECWET::JWHITE | I'm pro-choice and I vote | Wed Sep 20 1989 16:47 | 8 |
|
here in seattle in the people's republic of washington, united way
recently caved in to pressure from the catholic church to limit its
(united way's) support for planned parenthood because of planned
parenthood's involvement in abortions. this was a few months ago
and the situation has changed somewhat since then, possibly for the
better. however, united way will not get any of my money.
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771.19 | United Way Fails to Support Planned Parenthood | SANDS::RUSSELL | | Thu Sep 28 1989 17:40 | 46 |
| I received this in my e-mail bag today. I've deleted the forwardings
but I trust the person who originated it. I'm not so sure I trust the
magazine from which this is excerpted. :^)
I participate in my site's United Way stuff (send a flower to a
coworker, buy icecream at lunch) but I reserve most of my giving to
Planned Parenthood, the Religious Coalition for Abortion Rights (RCAR),
the National Abortion Rights Action League (NARAL), Aids research, and
a college fund. I simply don't believe in United Way. If you give
directly, you know exactly which charity/action group gets how much and
you can give precisely according to YOUR wishes.
===================================================================
"United Way Versus Planned Parenthood"
_Playboy_, September 1989
"United We Stand" reads one of the United Way's fund-raising posters.
The 100-year-old charitable organization claims that "United Way-supported
services benefit individuals and families by making possible the help and
expert care needed when critical problems arise." Not always--not when the
critical problem is an unwanted pregnancy.
Consider the situation in Seattle, Washington. In 1987, Planned Parenthood
of Seattle-King County decided to establish an abortion clinic. Last year,
United Way requested that if Planned Parenthood wished to continue to receive
its funding, it divide itself into two corporations--one that would provide
abortions and one that would not. United Way would fund the latter. Planned
Parenthood agreed. Unfortunately, that plan did not work. Two Seattle Roman
Catholic powerhouses, Archbishop Raymond H. Hunthausen and Coadjutor Archbishop
Thomas J. Murphy, wrote to the Planned Parenthood board of directors, accusing
the affiliate of declaring itself "ready to become the abortion factory
of western Washington." Seattle anti-abortionists conducted an aggressive
campaign to remove Planned Parenthood from United Way.
The United Way board passed a resolution stating that United Way would
not fund abortions or organizations that provide abortions. Seattle Planned
Parenthood was forced to withdraw from United Way. "Our mission is to provide
reproductive-health services to people who need them." explained Lee Minto,
Planned Parenthood's president. "We could accept United Way's policy of
not funding abortions. We couldn't accept its policy of not funding any
organization that provides abortions."
The Seattle situation is not an isolated occurrence. Planned Parenthood
affiliates in Illinois and Hawaii lost their United Way funding when they
elected to include abortion as part of their reproductive-health operations.
Women complained in the Seventies that United Way was top heavy with funding
for male programs. United Way tried to rectify that. Now it looks as though
it's trying to short-shrift women again--this time by denying funds to Planned
Parenthood. It's time it rectified *that*. -- Lisa Page
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771.20 | write in votes | CSC32::SPARROW | MYTH me once again | Thu Sep 28 1989 18:40 | 6 |
| The card we recieved this year from the United Way campaign gave us the
option of were we wanted our donations to go. I wrote in Large letters
"Planned Parenthood'. I'd like to see them say they couldn't see it
:-)
vivian
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771.21 | | ULTRA::ZURKO | The quality of mercy is not strained | Fri Sep 29 1989 09:34 | 8 |
| I've heard, from someone who shared that article with me as well, that in NH
the United Way _does_ support some small organizations that deal with rape,
incest, and abortions. And you don't know the names of these small
organizations (the generic you), so you won't be sending them money when you
stop giving to United Way. If I can get more information on this, I'll post.
It seems that United Way politics vary on a state-by-state basis.
Mez
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771.22 | Follow-up? | BARTLE::GODIN | This is the only world we have | Fri Sep 29 1989 09:37 | 7 |
| re. -.20 --
Vivian, how do you plan to track it? I've always been a bit suspicious
that once it's in the pot, like a stew, it all just gets melded
together.
Karen
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771.23 | don't know.. | CSC32::SPARROW | MYTH me once again | Fri Sep 29 1989 14:07 | 6 |
| re .-22
Karen,
I'm not sure how I would track it from here. I'll see if I can find
the United Way Rep for the center and see if I can get some answers.
vivian
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771.24 | What does Digital think? | SERPNT::SONTAKKE | Vikas Sontakke | Fri Sep 29 1989 14:16 | 5 |
| Will Digital match the contribution if you give it _directly_ to
Planned Parenthood? If not, we have really no leg to complain about
United Way. If yes, why bother with United Way?
- Vikas
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771.25 | it's not all bad | ROLL::MINER | Barbara Miner HLO2-3 | Fri Sep 29 1989 18:25 | 11 |
| This string seems a little one-sided. One of the **good** things about
United Way is that it relieves the charities of some of their fund-raising
efforts leaving them more time and energy to devote to their work. It
also relieves the giver from the time devoted to checking out the charity
to determine its legitimacy.
Naturally, there are specific causes that each of us feel compelled to
support, but United Way does provide a broad base of support for some
worthwhile causes.
Barbi
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771.26 | Give directly | PMROAD::JEFFRIES | | Mon Oct 02 1989 14:07 | 7 |
|
In spite of the fact that I am working in the United Way office
here at DEC, I feel that if you have a problem or a doubt about
how and where your contribution is handled, give directly to your
favorite charity and file a matching gift card. Don't feel pressured
into giving to the United Way.
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771.27 | Give directly to your favorite charities | CECV03::LUEBKERT | | Tue Oct 03 1989 18:01 | 10 |
| I give to United Way because a few years ago I asked for and got
their assurance that they do not fund Planned Parenthood. I could
not in good conscience help fund taking children's lives. If you
feel that you should help Planned Parenthood, you should give directly
for this. If United Way ever funds them, I will discontinue my
dontation. It's sad that there's such a division of conviction
on this. The only common ground is that there is no room for
compromise.
Bud
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771.28 | Boston Globe on UW | QUARK::LIONEL | Free advice is worth every cent | Wed Oct 04 1989 00:33 | 5 |
| Today's Boston Globe had a "pro and con" feature article on United
Way and its role in corporate contributions. I didn't have a chance
to read it thoroughly. Perhaps someone can abstract?
Steve
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771.29 | Correspondence with Corp. Community Relations | QUARK::LIONEL | Free advice is worth every cent | Wed Oct 04 1989 20:54 | 116 |
| I received today the attached message from Joanne Urgotis of
Corporate Community Relations concerning the statements I made in
this forum about United Way. I am reproducing it here with her
permission. I've also attached my response.
Having not been the subject of the intense pressure to contribute that
I've seen others report, I'm not in a position to supply Joanne with
details. If others have experienced this pressure, they may choose
to write Joanne about it.
Steve
From: FACMTS::FACMTS::MRGATE::"WITNES::A1::URGOTIS.JOANNE" 4-OCT-1989 11:40:34.74
To: QUARK::LIONEL
CC:
Subj: United Way
From: NAME: Joanne Urgotis @MSO
FUNC: Corp. Comm. Relations
TEL: 223-6083 <URGOTIS.JOANNE AT A1 AT WITNES AT PKO>
To: LIONEL@QUARK@VMSMAIL
I've just read through your messages from the NOTES file and thought
I'd offer some help, if you want/need it.
I know that +pat+ was trying to help you out with your concerns, but
maybe I can make things clearer since I have worked on 3 campaigns in
the Corporate Community Relations group (we're responsible for the
United Way & Matching Gift programs company-wide).
You're right - last year (as with all the previous years), in order to
cancel your payroll deduction, it was necessary to go to your PSA and
have them take it off the system. Until this year, we didn't have
access to that part of the EMF - it was limited to personnel only.
Now that we have that enhancement, we can cancel payroll deduction
directly. What +pat+ was trying to say is that if you submit your
card with a cancellation, it will not go into affect until the first
of the year; if you want your deduction canceled immediately, you
still have to go through your PSA.
I hope this is helpful.
Also, below is Digital's Philosophy regarding the United Way, taken
directly from the Policies and Procedures manual:
"As a corporate citizen, Digital takes its civic and social
responsibilities seriously and encourages its employees to
take their individual civic and social responsibilities
seriously as well.
Digital believes that the United Way is an efficient way for
the company and its employees to channel support to a wide
range of agencies providing essential social services to our
individual communities across the country.
Therefore:
We offer our employees the opportunity to give to
the United Way of their choice through payroll
deduction or one-time gifts.
We match all employee's donations, dollar-for-
dollar, doubling the impact of their gifts to the
united ways they choose to support.
We further encourage our employees to support the United Ways
and agencies in their communities by volunteering their
personal time and, whenever appropriate, to participate in
the management of the United Way organizations.
Digital believes in choice. We support, not demand or
coerce, our employees' choice to give to the United Way. We
assume responsibility to educate them as to what the United
Way represents so that their choice to give is an informed
decision."
If you think it would be helpful, feel free to publish this
message in the NOTES file.
Regards
From: QUARK::LIONEL "Steve Lionel 04-Oct-1989 1152" 4-OCT-1989 11:53:25.78
To: FACMTS::MRGATE::"WITNES::A1::URGOTIS.JOANNE"
CC: lionel
Subj: RE: United Way
Joanne,
Thanks for the information. Has the change about cancelling the
deduction through the pledge card been communicated to PSAs? Mine didn't
know about it (nor had she been told of last year's situation.)
While I think that in general United Way is a positive force, there are too
many side issues surrounding it that have made me uncomfortable. The
primary issue is the force (and I do not use that word lightly) applied
to employees in most Digital facilities in coercing them to contribute
to United Way. This practice is too widespread and too well documented to
ignore. I am thankful that my own management is the exception and simply
makes the forms available. There are discussions in the HUMAN::DIGITAL
conference about this.
My other concern is that many United Way chapters withdraw support from
organizations that they feel it would be politically inopportune to
support, such as Planned Parenthood and similar organizations that
provide reproductive planning and assistance to women. I suppose they are
free to pick and choose whom they want to support, but then, so am I,
and some of the organizations that UW DOES support are not those I would
willingly contribute to. Thus I prefer to make my contributions
directly.
I understand that United Way is an efficient means of collecting charitable
donations. I just wish that Digital as a corporation did not exert such
pressure on its employees to contribute and that UW chapters would be not
so quick to use politics as a selection criteria.
Steve
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771.30 | | VMSINT::RDAVIS | Plaster of Salt Lake City | Fri Jan 19 1990 22:39 | 8 |
| A little late for the UW decision, but worth noting:
� Will Digital match the contribution if you give it _directly_ to
� Planned Parenthood?
Yes.
Ray
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771.31 | Slight tangent... | FDCV07::HSCOTT | Lynn Hanley-Scott | Fri Mar 02 1990 11:18 | 6 |
| Does anyone know if Greenpeace is a not-for-profit organization that
qualifies for matching contributions? I couldn't find any notice on
Greenpeace's mailing stuff that says things like donations are
tax deductable etc.
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771.32 | Greenpeace | SCHOOL::KIRK | Matt Kirk -- 297-6370 | Fri Mar 02 1990 11:22 | 6 |
| It does, or at least, I've never had my matching contribution forms returned
to me. They have a sister organization that does not qualify, though I don't
remember why or what it's called. Literature from that organization does state
clearly that donations to it are not deductible.
M
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771.33 | | YUPPY::DAVIESA | Grail seeker | Mon Mar 05 1990 07:46 | 10 |
| On a recent flyer I had from Greenpeace asking for donations it
said that they "cannot accept donations from payroll".
I guess that means that they cannot accept donations raised from
the way that our Charitable Society works i.e. #x off your paycheck
each month. But I don't know where they'd stand on specific donations
raised by activity and matched by the company....
'gail
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