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654.1 | the universe tilted big-time! | SELL3::JOHNSTON | weaving my dreams | Mon Jun 19 1989 11:12 | 14 |
| yes, class III.
1 - asked to return immediately for second test. still the same.
2 - office vist for cryosurgery [sp?] within two weeks.
3 - re-test at two months and 6 months post-surgery and on a six-month
schedule for two years
4 - no recurrence. at all. even after 11 years.
No cause apparent. Some speculation that being pregnant prior to age
22 might have put me at risk.
I was scared witless, but I'm all better now.
Ann
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654.2 | Successfully treated! | GLINKA::GREENE | Cat Lady | Mon Jun 19 1989 11:24 | 17 |
| In 1976 (and I'm still alive :^) :^) I had a class 2 pap.
Had two repeats, also class 2. Things got worse before they
got better. But they *did* get better. I had surgery, and
then had pap tests every three months, then every 6 months,
and now I am back to once per year. Never had anything but
a class 1 since then.
I was totally freaked out when it became obvious that there
really was problem. It took a couple of years for me to fully
relax about it.
DON'T DELAY. Thank goodness for Pap tests. This is one thing
that can be CURED if caught early.
Call if you want more details dtn 223-7322
Pennie
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654.3 | my expierence..... | FOOZLE::LUSSIER | can't even be the wheels... | Mon Jun 19 1989 12:22 | 28 |
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For the first time in all of my yearly pap smears, this Feb. mine
came back as Class II. Non inflamatory. I was freaked out!
I was brought back in for a repeat and was told it was the same
results. He recommended a colposcopy. I said no way, BECAUSE, he
could not tell me why I was having these symptoms. " alot of
different things could cause it." That was not good enough for me.
So I went to another gyn. Got another pap test and the results
were the same BUT he told me the procedures went like this:
Off the birth control for three months, repeat the test,
then if nothing has changed then the colposcopy.
In the mean time he took some blood work (at my
recomendation) and found out that my hyperthyroid
condition was back again. Therefore making my uterus
"slugish"! Now I have to repeat the pap in July and
he has assured me he thinks that this is the problem.
Now that I am on the hyperthyroid meds, I am starting to feel
like myself again. BTW I never suspected my pap would not be
normal, that is, no pain or discharge, or any other symptoms.
Cathy
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654.4 | Another experience | WMOIS::B_REINKE | If you are a dreamer, come in.. | Mon Jun 19 1989 19:47 | 23 |
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I had no pain or other symptoms either. My Class II came in about
10 years ago. Cryosurgery was recommended and when I hear the words
pre-cancerous condition, I agreed to the procedure. (Younger and
too naive to question it fully, but I did 'trust' my gyn at the
time.
Follow up paps have been fine ever since. The cryosurgery was
slightly uncomfortable, but compared to what seemed to be the
consequences, it wasn't bad at all.
Talk with you gyn in detail, get as much information as to
'what' may be causing this, and if you are not comfortable
with it, seek a second opinion, but move quickly on it.
Mary
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654.5 | | SCRUZ::CORDES_JA | Walk the Dinosaur | Mon Jun 19 1989 22:24 | 37 |
| I don't remember what class pap smear I had but I remember them calling
it pre-cancer. It was recommended that I go see a specialist in
Los Angeles who was doing research and laser surgery on women who
had the DES symptoms. [I have the classic hooded cervix that led them
to believe my mom was given DES (diethylstilbestrol???sp) while
carrying me.]
The procedure was done in the office so I was not given anesthetic. I
was okay till it was about 3/4 through and then it really hurt. I flew
in from San Jose, CA that morning, had the procedure done and caught a
flight home that same day. Recovery from this was fairly easy and I
don't remember being in pain after the initial surgery. There were
rules though; abstinence for approx. 6 weeks then sex was okay using a
condom for the next 3 weeks, after that, no problem.
I was approx. 23 when this was done. I'm 33 now. For quite a while
afterwards I had check ups every 6 months but now I go yearly. My
doctor does a colposcopy every time I go in for an annual.
I did have to have cryosurgery once quite a while after the laser
for some tissue that looked suspicious. I found it to be quite
painful and the recovery period was the pits. In my opinion, it's
much more difficult than the recovery from laser surgery.
There is a specialist in DES/Laser surgery in my area now and if
anything looks suspicious I get referred to him. But generally
I have been problem free as far as pap smears go for the last 4-5
years. Of course, there have been different problems not related
to this and the DES specialist would like to avoid any more trauma
to my cervix if possible.
Oh, my doctor says that even though I have the classic DES symptoms,
the pre-cancer I had was not related to that. Supposedly it was
some different type than what the DES patients have been known to
have.
Jan
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654.6 | Me Too! | SHAPES::MALITORISK | KERRY | Wed Jun 21 1989 06:32 | 32 |
| I too have had class II pap test results. The first time was while
I was in College (19 years old) and scared to death. I was going to
the local planned parenthood clinic. They recommended biopsy. I
immediately arranged to see another doctor, second opinion and all.
The results were the same as was the advice. I had the biopsies.
They took 12 samples from my cervix. It was very uncomfortable
and caused some discharge afterwards. The results of the biopsy
was called cervical displasia and it was treated with cryosurgery.
That is where they use liquid nitrigen to 'burn' of the 'growths'.
I then had the pap tests every three months and all was fine for
two years. I then had another class II result. After more second
opinions, it was discovered that I had a displasia in the cervical
canal. An unusual location but not unheard of. I once again had
the cryosurgery. I went through the 3 month, then 6 month, and
now every year pap tests. It has been over eight years since my
last surgery and no problems have occurred. I have read alot on
the topic over the years. Recent studies have indicated that cervical
displasias may be caused by increased sexual activity or change of
sexual positions. According to the studies, the cervix can be bruised
by the penis. If the bruising is frequent or sever such as with
multiple partners, different sex positions, increased sexual activity
(new partner or attempts to get pregnant) then the bruise can become
a sore known as displasia. If not treated it can develop into cancer.
In summary, yes, it is scary. The studies are not conclusive, but,
it is important not to ignore it. It is also totally treatable. Some
review of lifestyles may be necessary, at least as a precaution
until all the facts are known. I've been fine as have many other
women. Good luck!
Kerry
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654.7 | Phew! Three months later - normal | CSC32::P_VASKE | | Thu Jun 22 1989 00:48 | 7 |
| I had a class II pap a 3 or 4 years ago. The doctor wanted a repeat
three months later, it was normal. Then 6 months later, also normal.
They have been normal ever since. No explanation as to why the one was
abnormal. I just thought you might want to hear from someone whose pap
test went back to normal in three months. Thank God it wasnt anything
more serious.(so far anyway) Its frightening to think and read about
what the cause might be.
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654.8 | Info on Pap smears | WMOIS::B_REINKE | If you are a dreamer, come in.. | Thu Jul 13 1989 13:40 | 20 |
| The following information is from a column by Dr. Lawerence Lamb
in the Thursday July 13, 1989 Boston Herald, page 58.
"Several years ago the cells were graded as class I through class
V. The class I cells were normal. To standarize the methods, cells
are now considered as normal or one of three groups CIN I II or
III. The CIN means cervical intraepithelial neoplasia.
"The change also reflects the current opinion that even mild dysplasia
may progree to carcinomia and that is why you must have frequent
examinations. It does not mean you now have cancer, and if the changes
should progress, early treatment can result in a complete cure.
Dysplasia means changes from normal in the cells, not that you have
cancer....
"The early ditection and removal of precancerous lesions is largely
reponsible for the 70 percent decrease in deaths from cancer of
the cervix in the United States since the 1930s."
Bonnie
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654.9 | THANKS... AND I'M OK | DONVAN::MUISE | | Tue Jul 18 1989 15:50 | 13 |
| As usual, this community came through with instant support and
information.
Thanks so much to all of you who wrote and called.
Fortunately, my second pap turned out to be a class I... and I was
very worried for nothing.
But even when I feared the worst, I got "instant relief" from this
notes file.
jacki
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