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| 454.3 |  | LEZAH::QUIRIY |  | Mon Feb 20 1989 10:27 | 19 | 
|  |     
    On Christmas eve, I like to go to midnight mass at Church of the
    Advent in Boston.  I'm sure I'd enjoy some of the (fancier) masses
    held on other holy days throughout the year.  I was raised RC and
    lost faith round about the time they started to "modernize" -- this
    coincided with adolescence, so who knows what the cause?  Anyway,
    Church of the Advent is Episcopal, of the type that is big on ritual
    -- I feel like I'm being disrespectful in the way I'm talking about
    this but I don't mean to be, I just don't know what the divisions
    within the faith might be called -- and their celebration is familiar 
    to me, remeniscent of the old RC masses.  I go for the ritual.  I go 
    for the glitter.  I go for the music, for the beauty of the church
    and the flowers decorating it.  It still feels mysterious to me, even
    though these services are in English, and I think I loved that as a 
    child.  It feels HOLY.  I love the smell of the incense.  There's
    something calming about a church.
    
    Christine
    
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| 454.4 |  | GERBIL::IRLBACHER | Another I is beginning... | Mon Feb 20 1989 11:56 | 25 | 
|  |     RE:.3
    
    Church of the Advent (I have yet to attend) is probably what is
    referred to as "high church" since there is incense and the ritual
    that goes with its use.  That is only one of the things which sets
    it apart from, say, Trinity at Copley.  Both are Episcopal.  
    
    It has only been recently that at the 6 PM Sunday services at Trinity
    that we "give the peace" to each other.  It still isn't done in
    the morning services because many simply think it annoying.  Episcopal
    churches run the course of very low--almost similar to a Methodist
    service, to ultra high such as St. Stephen of the Incarnation in
    D.C. where there are statutes of the Virgin and they have the
    consecrated host on side alters at all times, and use rosary beads.
    
    I agree with .3 that the ritual of the church has its own mystery
    and beauty.  And that, in part, is why I also attend.  But as another
    noter stated, it does give that short period of time where one can
    concentrate on being with God and in"his house".  And although I
    know that one can be with God anywhere, it seems really special
    to be amongst all that beauty and music.
    
    Marilyn
    
    
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| 454.5 | because it makes my heart rejoice | CIVIC::JOHNSTON | OK, _why_ is it illegal? | Mon Feb 20 1989 12:03 | 17 | 
|  |     re.3  I think 'high church' is the term you seek for Church of the
	    Advent [irreverently dubbed 'Church of the Holy Smoke' by
	    the EDS seminarians in Cambridge]
    
    I mourned when CofA stopped with midnight mass on Easter.  Somehow
    the Return of the Light isn't the same at sunrise...
    
    For me the music, the ritual, and the discipline of mass is a Mystery
    of affirmation.
   
    I was born an Anglican, bred half Anglican half Roman, and remain
    happy to call myself Catholic.
    
    The rules and hierachies are, for me, dross.  The message and the
    mystery remain sublime.
    
      Ann
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| 454.6 | they're everywhere | NOETIC::KOLBE | The dilettante debutante | Thu Feb 23 1989 19:05 | 23 | 
|  | 
       Geese, another half anglican/roman catholic here. There must be a
       bunch of us. I am not very religious in that I usually only go to
       church when my quintet is playing but I am held by the religion
       none the less for it.
       I too was raised in a "high mass" Anglican church. The service is
       almost indentical to the Catholic service. I perfer the ritual of
       high mass, maybe it's cause my Father kidnapped me as a baby and
       baptised me himself so that I would be baptised Roman Catholic.
       It acutally acknowleges that on my Episcopal confirmation papers.
       I hate so much of what the church/religions have done to
       perpetrate hatered in this world but I find myself bound to it
       regardless. I believe somewhat in an afterworld and the
       possiblity of evil/good spirits. Of the Christian religions only
       Catholic religions seem to give that validity with things like
       exorcism and belief in saints.
       I've looked at any number of belief systems and while I like Tao
       intellectually my upbringing seems to keep me from it
       emotionally. This may just mean that I've been well
       indoctrinated. liesl
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