[Search for users] [Overall Top Noters] [List of all Conferences] [Download this site]

Conference turris::womannotes-v2

Title:ARCHIVE-- Topics of Interest to Women, Volume 2 --ARCHIVE
Notice:V2 is closed. TURRIS::WOMANNOTES-V5 is open.
Moderator:REGENT::BROOMHEAD
Created:Thu Jan 30 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 30 1995
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1105
Total number of notes:36379

309.0. "Mentoring" by STAR::LTSMITH (Leslie) Mon Nov 28 1988 10:18

Hi Folks,
    I just finished reading a book that I'd recommend to all working women
    regardless of position or level.  It's available in many of Digital's
    libraries, with some libraries carrying multiple copies.
    
    The book is "Professional Women & Their Mentors" by Nancy W.  Collins,
    Prentice Hall Inc, Englewood Cliffs, New Jersey, 1983.

    The front pages says:

      "Nancy W.  Collins is the assistant to the president of the Palo
      Alto Medical Foundation in Califoria.  Formerly, she was the
      assistant director of the Hoover Institution, and before that, the
      assistant director of the Sloan Executive Program of the Stanford
      Graduate School of Business.  She holds a B.A.  in Journalism and
      an M.S.  in Personnel Administration, both from the University of
      North Carolina at Chapel Hill."
      
    I am presently working with my first mentor, after ten years in the
    computer industry, and this book helped me learn what many of the
    ground rules are.  Now I'll just have to see the extent to which they
    apply within DEC.
    
    Collins does a great job presenting her findings from a survey of
    women who have had mentor-mentoree relationships.  She follows this
    presentation with case information in each chapter that was gathered
    through interviews.

    The table of contents is: 
    	o Introduction
	o What is a Mentor?
	o What a Mentor Does
	o Selecting a Mentor
	o Can and Should You Have More Than One Mentor?
	o Sex and the Mentor Relationship
	o When the Relationship Ends
	o Men and Their Mentors
	o On Becoming a Mentor
	o Mentor Questionaire and Results
	o Conclustions for Professional Women and Their 
	  Mentoring Relationship
	o Field Study Methodology
	o Tables and Graphs Depicting Women's Status
	o Bibliography

    It's a small book, 160 pages, and well worth reading.  I agree with
    much of the information presented.
    
    The two places I disagreed with what was presented were:
    		o the mentor chooses the mentoree
		o the agreement of mentoring is not formal between the
		  two people.

    I asked my mentor to mentor me, and I believe in this approach.  Now
    one could say that he offered to be my mentor beforehand, but I missed
    the signal, but who knows....  Its formal now, and we both benefit
    from the exchange.
    
    I also believe the agreement is best done formally.  This assures the
    mentoree accepts the relationship with the seriousness that is
    appropriate, and doesn't take the effort required by both parties for
    granted.

    So, that's the info.  What do you think?  Ever had a mentor before?
    Do you have guidance to share?
					-Leslie



T.RTitleUserPersonal
Name
DateLines
309.1NEXUS::CONLONMon Nov 28 1988 10:4463
    	When I prepared for my Technical Proficiency Review Board, I
    	had a formal technical mentor to guide me through my studies
    	(and to evaluate my progress in the technical aspects of my
    	board.)  Technical mentors are a requirement of the board
    	process itself, so it was a formal arrangement between the
    	two of us (and the TCD, Technical Career Development, program
    	had to be informed about it for me to qualify for both the
    	program AND the board.)
    
    	When I went to my board, I asked that my mentor be allowed to
    	witness it as a "guest" -- there are 5 guests allowed to witness
    	each Technical Proficiency Review Board (which made a total
    	of 13 people present at my particular board.)  I had two
    	technical interviewers (one for Clusters and one for VAX 8800's,)
    	six board members, and five guests (three of which consisted
    	of my mentor, and my two manager co-sponsors.)
    
    	When the board was over, it turned out to be a great help to
    	both my mentor and I that he was able to watch it in person
 	(so that he could see how I handle myself in that situation
    	and how my presentation/oral_exams went.)  He is currently
    	mentoring me for the Engineering Review Board (while he
    	studies for the ERB that I will be taking AFTER the one I
    	have coming up in the Spring.)
    
    	I have a total of two Engineering Review Boards coming, in other
    	words, while he only has one left.  We're both majoring in
    	Clusters (but I'm also minoring in VAX 8800 hardware, which
    	he is not, so I have a number of 'side mentors' that are
    	helping me with that section of the board prep.)  My 'side
    	mentors' have been through the ERB with VAX 8800's as their
    	majors.

    	MEANWHILE, I am currently 'side mentoring' a number of other
    	men in my district who are prepping for the board I took last
    	time.  I won't be ready to be a full mentor until after my
    	ERB in the Spring, but I fill in some of the gaps as 'side
    	mentor' as practice.  (*I* coined the term 'side mentor,' by
    	the way.  I don't think that there is any formal term for
    	the people, other than one's formal mentor, who help board
    	candidates.  They do a very real job in mentoring, though,
    	as I can attest to by the EXTREMELY helpful 'side mentors'
    	I have had over the past two years.)

    	Since the board process REQUIRES formal mentoring, it's fairly
    	easy to establish a mentoring relationship.  Generally, the
    	one who needs mentoring goes in search of the mentor -- (at
    	least that's how I've seen it work around here.)  Usually,
    	though, the 'side mentors' pop up on a more informal basis.
    	You start chatting with someone who has been through a board
    	you are prepping for, and before you know it, the person has
    	started helping you with a myriad of tips/information/material
    	(and gives you names of others who have MORE tips/information/
    	material.)  
    
    	In my particular corner of DEC, there are so MANY people who
    	have been to various boards (and most of those people are so
    	enthusiastic about helping others who aspire to those boards)
    	that acquiring mentors and 'side mentors' are not a problem.
    
    	I'm not sure if this is the kind of 'mentoring' that was meant
    	in the basenote, but it's the kind that I've seen many times
    	(and have experienced) out here in Colorado Springs.
309.2Coaching/Mentoring - Both ValuableSTAR::LTSMITHLeslieTue Nov 29 1988 13:3228
RE: .1
    Thanks for the info about the mentoring you've received.  Sounds like
    its an indepth technical coaching role.  And a very valuable one; one
    that's working well for the individuals and the organization.  Sounds
    like you're in a field support area.  Is this true?
    
    The mentoring relationship I'm in now, does not have technical
    coaching element.  It is assumed that I know how to acquire the
    technical skills I need for the next level (I'm a Principal Software
    Engineer now).
    
    What Nancy Collins says in her book is that most mentors are 10-15
    years older than their mentoree and are typically not in the same
    organization.  This is a benefit from the experience standpoint.  It
    also provides the mentoree with another view of the corporation from
    outside her/his own organization.

    My mentor and I are working at preparing me for the things that cannot
    be read in technical manuals.  Some of these include:  how to
    develop/enhance my strategic thinking skills, how to better
    consult/lead people towards technical solutions, how to recognize and
    use power and collaborative work to positive ends, how to interpret
    the corporate culture so I can work within it and improve it.

    This is all new territory for me, so we'll see how it goes.
    Definitely a challenge and I'm excited about the process.

    What have other people experienced?
309.3paper availableULTRA::ZURKOMy life is in transitionFri Apr 13 1990 11:057
I've got a paper called "Executive Mentoring" from the University of Tennessee,
which is meant to be a guidebook on starting and structuring the mentor
relationship, from the _mentor's_ point of view. I read it in under 1.5 hours,
and got a fair amount out of it (I know hardly anything about mentoring). If
you'd like a copy, I'll get some made.

	Mez
309.4LEZAH::BOBBITTfestina lente - hasten slowlyFri Apr 13 1990 11:214
    Yes!
    
    -Jody