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Conference turris::womannotes-v2

Title:ARCHIVE-- Topics of Interest to Women, Volume 2 --ARCHIVE
Notice:V2 is closed. TURRIS::WOMANNOTES-V5 is open.
Moderator:REGENT::BROOMHEAD
Created:Thu Jan 30 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 30 1995
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1105
Total number of notes:36379

244.0. "Presidential Election.." by CSMADM::GRIFFITH (Don't Worry...Be Happy!) Fri Oct 14 1988 10:49

    
    So what are your views on this year's election?
    I was wondering who is for/against Bush, Quayle, Dukakis, and Benson,
    and why, and what issues are concerns for you. And if last night's
    debate has changed anyone's viewpoints. 
    
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244.1VAXRT::CANNOYConvictions cause convicts.Fri Oct 14 1988 11:296
    If you had checked, there are already 5 or 6 notes dealig with the
    elections. I point you to not, 42,42,and 207 in particular.
    
    Tamzen
    
    Moderators, please feel free to delete this after moving base note.
244.2Just want to get my facts straight EDUHCI::CLITESMon Oct 17 1988 18:066
    I heard that a woman, running as an independent, is struggling to
    get her name on the ballot in all 50 states.  Anyone know anything
    about her.  For some inexplicable reason, she's not getting much
    press if she's really out there.
    
    
244.3and the media elects...PRYDE::ERVINMy Karma Ran Over My DogmaMon Oct 17 1988 18:3412
    re: .2
    
    Most independent candidates don't get much press, and if it's a
    woman candidate, forget it.
    
    In my opinion, I feel that the media really elects the president.
    Already, the newspapers are starting to declare Bush the winner.
    
    In spite of this b.s., I'll still turn up at the voting booth on
    election day, although the whole process can be disheartening at
    times.
    
244.5My $.02SALEM::LUPACCHINOTue Oct 18 1988 01:329
    
    One of the things that I resent about the New Alliance Party is that
    they masquerade as part of the Rainbow Coalition (which they are
    not.)  They are quite familiar with Rainbow "terminology" but
    do not abide by Rainbow philosophy.

    The few dealings I have had with them have been less than pleasant.
    
    am
244.6enlighten meLEZAH::BOBBITTgot to crack this ice and fly...Tue Oct 18 1988 08:545
    ann marie, can you tell me more about her and her stance on various
    issues?
    
    -jody
    
244.7AQUA::WALKERTue Oct 18 1988 10:019
    Re:  .3
    
    "media really elects the president."
    
    This morning NBC News opened with - Good news today, Bush is ahead
    17 points in the polls.  (I suspect it is an NBC poll.)
    
    Yes, I agree it is disheartening to see how the media leads people
    in the direction that will benefit the media.
244.8I'll get some info if you'd like...SALEM::LUPACCHINOTue Oct 18 1988 12:157
    
    Jody, I would have to hunt up her campaign material for you. I refused
    to sign a petition to have her name placed on the ballot about a
    year ago because of my awareness of NAP tactics.
    
    Ann Marie
    
244.9Article about Fulani canidacy 10/13/88PSG::PURMALGeorge Bush = Reagan LiteTue Oct 18 1988 12:3275
        According to an article in the Oct 13, 1988 San Jose Mercury
    News Fulani wants to spoil Dukakis' chances.  I'll enter bits and
    pieces of the article.
    
        Candidate wants to spoil Dukakis' chances
            by Bert Robinson
            San Jose Mercury News Staff Writer
    
        Using public money and a small but savvy organization, a black
    New York psychologist is making a left-wing bid for the presidency
    with the goal of siphoning enough Democratic votes - in key states
    like California- to throw the election to Vice President George
    Bush.
    
    Lenora B. Fulani, who hopes to show the Democratic party the costs
    of ignoring her "rainbow" constituency, is given only an outside
    shot at success.  But in an extremely rare achievement for a
    minor-party candidate, she has secured a place on the ballot in all
    50 states and has qualified for more than $750,000 in matching
    funds.
    
    ...Fulani's New Alliance Party has split the American radical left.
    The 38-year-old candidate touts a broad supporting coalition that
    includes gay activists and Louis Farrakhan...
    
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        Fulani argues that the mainstream parties will do nothing
    meaningful for minorities. "These people need to understand that
    it's a total myth that the Democrats are going to do anything for
    the blacks, the gays and the lesbians," Fulani said in a recent
    telephone interview.  "I guarantee you that if we achieve what we
    plan on Nov. 8, they'll come running to us on Nov. 9."
    
        Fulani's carefully crafted election strategy emphasizes 10 states
    where Bush and Dukakis are so evenly matched that a third candidate
    could hold the balance of power.  If Fulani can draw 1 to 2 percent
    of the vote in those states, her advisors believe, she can rob both
    Bush and Dukakis of an electoral majority.
    
        "We're hoping for a replay of what happened nationwide in 1968",
    said Jim Mangia, a Fulani organizer now working as educational director
    of the East Bay AIDS Project in Berkeley.  "George Wallace ran,
    the Southerners bolted the party, and the Democrats have been kowtowing
    to conservative whites ever since."
    
        ... Fulani has labeled Dukakis as a "white supremacist" and
    "homophobe".
    
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        Overall, the Fulani campaign has gathered 1.1 million signatures
    and filed 10 separate lawsuits across the country as part of the
    qualifying effort. ...
    
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        No matter how her punish-the-Democrats strategy pays out, Fulani's
    most important achievement may be in constructing a campaign
    organization that can reliably place independent candidates on the
    ballot.
    
        Sinwaski, the New Alliance attorney, says no left-wing group
    in decades has been able to do so; it is, he maintains, the first
    step toward forming a competitive third party.
    
        "It may pave the way for an independent Jesse Jackson candidacy
    in 1992" he said.  "The Mechanism would be here if he wants to use
    it."
244.10CADSE::GLIDEWELLTue Oct 18 1988 22:0841
re Note 244.7 by AQUA::WALKER 

>    ... disheartening to see how the media leads people
>    in the direction that will benefit the media.

The TV media is especially dreadful -- anything to preserve
rating points and megabucks. No major network sent investigative
reporters to look into the hostage story. (Many network
correspondents have complained off-the-record that their networks
told them to go easy on Reagan and Bush to keep the ratings up.) 

Peter Rodino in the House has been trying to get enough support
to look into it for months. That's where the following letter
comes from.  Who knows, maybe Bush will be elected just in time
to be impeached. 

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The Honorable Peter Rodino
Chairman House Judiciary Committee
United States House of Representatives
Washington, D.C. 20515


Dear Mr. Rodino,

I am extremely disturbed by allegations concerning the conduct of
the President and Vice President conduct in the June, 1980, Paris
negotiations over the possible release of Mid_East hostages.  It
has been reported that our current leaders recommended
withholding the release of the hostages until after the November
1980 elections and it's further alleged that some forty million
dollars of American tax dollars were involved in secret
negotiations with Iranian leaders. 

   It should be relatively simple to get a Yes or No response to these 
charges without resorting to impeachment proceedings and we request 
that you take immediate action to secure the truth and lay this issue 
to rest.

   Sincerely, 
244.12MOSAIC::RUFri Oct 21 1988 10:065
    
    RE: .10
    
    I think the people dream up those insane allegations against
    Reagan and Bush really make me feel sick.
244.13What Makes It An "Insane Allegation"?FDCV16::ROSSFri Oct 21 1988 11:326
    RE: .12
    
    When you first heard about "Iran-Gate", did you think that was
    an "insane allegation"?
    
      Alan
244.14quick...get a napkin, some sarcasm just dripped on my keyboardANT::JLUDGATEit's only life....Sat Oct 22 1988 00:5116
    re: .12
    
    there is a discussion going on in SOAPBOX which lists many sources,
    including several from within Reagan's campaign staff of 1980, which
    support allegations that an actual deal was cut to stall any efforts
    made by then president Carter to secure the safe release of American
    hostages.  also, several of the participants have become dead since
    then, some by natural causes, some by not so natural causes.
    
    but pay no heed to me, and also keep the faith that Richard Nixon
    is not a crook, we all know deep in our hearts that the man who
    would be president would *NEVER* commit a crime (such as treason),
    even if it would insure him victory in an election.
    
    ..........................jonathan