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Conference turris::womannotes-v1

Title:ARCHIVE-- Topics of Interest to Women, Volume 1 --ARCHIVE
Notice:V1 is closed. TURRIS::WOMANNOTES-V5 is open.
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Created:Thu Jan 30 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 30 1995
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:873
Total number of notes:22329

800.0. "help Help HELP H E L P me!" by FSTTOO::ROYER (FIDUS AMICUS..) Mon Apr 11 1988 12:35

    I am Placing this note here, in hope that the female gender would
    have had more experience at this than other locations that I could
    pose this problem/question.
    
    I have a RETARDED DAUGHTER!  She is 12 years old and is Physically
    becomming a woman.  She is becomming very arguementative and abusive
    to everyone in contact with her.  She hit her 17 year old sister
    in the back with her fist last week, and on Friday evening she 
    refused to go to bed 2 1/2 hours after her regular bed time.. I
    tried coaxing, then took her by the hands to pull her to bed..
    she was too much this way so result was that I picked her up to
    carry her to bed.. whereupon she pulled my hair and bit my arm,
    she was vocally abusive and finally went to sleep about 1 am.
    All the household was exhaused by this time.
      She is in a "special needs" classroom, and is not able
    to remain in this long because of the fits she throws, running
    down the center of the street, exiting the school yard at P.E.
    classes, distrupting the school activities..... I could go on
    forever.
    
    I L O V E  THIS CHILD VERY MUCH AS DOES MY WIFE.  WE JUST ARE
    not able to cope with the temper tantrums and the fact that
    in Her eyes she never does anything "its your fault or someone
    elses, never mine!"
    
    We do not want to instutionalize this lovely child, and want
    to know what are the options that can be used.  
    
    Medication, do these things work?
    
    Psyicatriatic help?
    
    Some other method?
    
    I need some options soon, can anyone sugest any options..
    
    thank you,
    
    Dave
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800.1one ideaDANUBE::B_REINKEwhere the sidewalk endsMon Apr 11 1988 12:5522
    Dave,
    
    We have a retarded son who is 13 years old. He is physically becoming
    a man. While we have not had the kinds of behavior problems that
    you describe we have noticed an increas in negative types of behavior
    as he has moved into puberty.
    
    At school he is on a behavior modification program. This program
    was set up by a psychologist and allows him to 'earn' tokens for
    good behavior through out the day.
    
    We have not implimented the program at home...largely because those
    who would have to do a lot of the work are his 14 and 15 year old
    siblings and this wasn't a personality fit.
    
    However, this sort of program could possibly work for your daughter.
    Try getting in touch with her teacher and seeing if such a person
    is available in your area.
    
    Good luck
    
    Bonnie Jeanne
800.3B Vitamins may helpATPS::FODENMon Apr 11 1988 17:309
    I have had little experience with retarded children, but I do know
    that my daughter and myself both benefit emotionally from taking
    B vitamins.  Usually a B complex taken on a regular basis helps
    us to be less irritable and moody.  I mention this only because
    puberty is a time of lots of changes in the body and your daughter
    sounds like she may be feeling some of the frustrations lots
    of young women feel at this time.  
    
    Alicia
800.4SUPER::HENDRICKSThe only way out is throughMon Apr 11 1988 18:5882
    Dave, I remember similar stories from my teaching days.  Kids who
    were retarded and whose parents really did love them and want the
    best for them were fairly manageable as 3, 5, and 9 year olds.
    
    Pre-adolescence hits, and all of a sudden the child is large, and
    is starting to develop physically.  A manageable situation turns
    into a hell of physical battles, verbal battles, tears and tantrums.
    Reasonable, thinking adults find themselves stopping just short
    of what would be considered abusive.  Siblings feel neglected.
    Parents start to despair, and find themselves thinking the taboo
    word:  institution, and wonder if they are depriving the other children
    if they don't pursue that course, and depriving this child if they
    do.
                                                    
    It isn't always that way, but I've heard that story more than once.
    
    You've probably tried some of these things, but they have worked for
    other parents of retarded children who have behavior problems. 
    
    Camp.  Some camps for special needs kids are a great relief to the
    child because they are like everyone else there.  Some camps offer
    very demanding physical-challenge programs (like primitive camping)
    with good counselors who do manage to teach self-reliance.  The
    staff is often comprised of college students who are training as
    special needs teachers.  The rigorous program often serves as a
    channel for pre-adolescent energy and emotions.
    
    The parent who told me about this said it was hard because the child
    came back from camp happy and glowing and very self-reliant.  A
    great deal of the camp experience seemed to last at home.  But when
    spring rolled around, the child begged not to go, and practically
    had to be taken kicking and screaming.  They said that the positive
    gains made each summer made the pre-camp trauma worth it.
                                                             
    [Bonnie, do you know more about this than I do?]
                            
    Counseling for you and for the child.  Ideally the therapist should
    be someone whose attention the special needs child values highly.
    They need loving attention outside the family, and in many cases
    they are not getting it from peers.  You and your wife deserve some
    support from a professional who understands the pain and struggle
    you go through.
    
    Physical activities that you and your daughter can do together. What
    does she enjoy?  Can she swim at all?  Can she throw baskets? Can she
    paddle a canoe?  A good pe teacher (Dale??)  or physical therapist
    could probably help you identify some activities which can be done as a
    family, which will use up some energy (=get her tired enough to go to
    bed), and which will not be frustrating for her.  With nice weather
    coming, it would be good to focus on fun activities rather than
    behavior! 
    
    Books.  I used to work with learning disabled kids, and have a minor
    learning disability myself.  There are excellent books for LD parents
    which can be comforting just to read when the going gets tough.
    There must be similar books for parents of a retarded child.
                                                                  
    A friend for your child.  Is there someone who feels like a peer
    to her whom she enjoys spending time with and talking with?  Sometimes
    a younger child can be a good companion.  I think it's very important
    to help the child find a friend who feels good to her to be with.
    It certainly helps self-esteem to be liked by someone other than
    your parents!
    
    Appearance.  Teachers often found that retarded children had trouble
    with peers because they were perceived as looking different.  Is
    there anything you can do to help her in this area?  A new haircut
    that's pretty and easy to take care of?  The latest in shoes or
    jeans?  Again, anything tangible that helps self-esteem has to help
    all the way around.  Teachers could tell you if this is a problem.
    Adolescent special needs girls in the schools where I taught sometimes
    had problems with body odor.  If that's a problem, she could be
    encountering rejection and not understanding why.  It's hard to
    talk about stuff like this, but it's soooo important in peer
    relationships and acceptance.  Teachers were often afraid to mention
    it to already overburdened parents.  
             
    A parent support group.  For you.  They alone understand what it's
    like.  Those of us who have taught may have good ideas, but we haven't
    been there the way other parents have.
    
    Hugs to you and your daughter....Holly
800.5on campsTWEED::B_REINKEwhere the sidewalk endsMon Apr 11 1988 19:1313
    in re .4
    
    We have sent Stevie to a local camp for special kids..but
    found that tho he loved going there, he regressed because
    the councelors let him act like a baby there.
    
    But it was a break for all of us in the summer. I should try
    and investigate other camps...we went to this one because
    it was only 20 mins from home, and he still had serious
    separation anxieties the first few years after we adopted
    him.
    
    Bonnie
800.6VIDEO::TEBAYNatural phenomena invented to orderSun May 01 1988 01:3725
    First of all do get the help of your doctor and a support
    group.
    
    You don't say how retarded. 
    
    I have some very good friends(make that extended family)who have
    a  brain damaged child who in mind will never be over
    three years old. As she grew and when she got into the teenage
    years it became too difficult in more ways than one.(Plus
    medical problems) 
    
    They love her very much (as I do-being an Aunt by extension)
    but the best solution was a hospital /home care.
    
    The thing that most often came to my friends mind that when
    they were gone or if something happened to them what would happen.
    They are not rich.
    
    Some of the hardest things was to realize that while physically
    this person is an adult-they are not.
    
    Do seek some good meidcal advice.
    
    If you like you can contact me directly via mail.