| Title: | ARCHIVE-- Topics of Interest to Women, Volume 1 --ARCHIVE |
| Notice: | V1 is closed. TURRIS::WOMANNOTES-V5 is open. |
| Moderator: | REGENT::BROOMHEAD |
| Created: | Thu Jan 30 1986 |
| Last Modified: | Fri Jun 30 1995 |
| Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
| Number of topics: | 873 |
| Total number of notes: | 22329 |
I have been reading quietly for sometime now trying to
understand the anger expressed here by some women.I
originally stated reading this file because a women friend
of mine was expressing great anger toward men and I wanted
to understand.I now realize that, that anger became noticeable
to me after she started a job at Dec. as a secretary, and seems
to have subsided sense changing to another job.It could be
just a coincidence but when I thought about it I saw some
plausibility to it.She worked for and with mostly managers.
It will come as no surprise to any of you who have had
manager courses that it is held by some that the three
sources of job satisfaction are affiliation,achievement,and power.
It is also believed, people who are motivated by power often
seek management positions.I want to make it clear that
the desire for power is not a bad thing, power used correctly
can have very positive results.The situation my friend was in
was one were the people around her may have been motivated
by power and she may have been motivated by achievement and
affiliation.So I guess my questions are.
What gives you job satisfaction, affiliation,achievement,or power?
What gives those around you job satisfaction?
Where do you have bad experiences with men?
P.S. Many of the people I work with lean toward affiliation,and
achievement.From talking to them I feel they have no anger toward
men as a group.They did state they knew individuals who they
considered jerks however.
George D.
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| 791.1 | SUPER::HENDRICKS | The only way out is through | Wed Apr 06 1988 20:52 | 25 | |
I need to think about your questions before answering, but off the
top of my head, my first trivial response to job satisfaction is
"doing something fun that I get to plan by myself for good money".
~achievement ~power over my time
I'm not motivated to have power over others, but I'm very highly
motivated not to let others have day to day power over my time and
attention. Managers and supervisors are fine as long as they assign
me the work and the deadline and leave me to figure out how to do
it.
Can you define how you are using "affiliation"? In my organizational
behavior class, people interpreted it two different ways. The first
was contact with 'desirable' people, in other words, movers and
shakers who had power, charisma and influence. The second was contact
with other humans in a more general sense, people who were enjoyable
for you as a person, but not necessarily influential or 'important'.
Would you be willing to cross-post this to COLORS::DEC_SECRETARY?
Or can I? People in that file have been discussing some related
things, and this question is quite relevant.
Holly
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| 791.2 | intended meanings | MTBLUE::DUCHARME_GEO | Thu Apr 07 1988 09:08 | 13 | |
RE:1 Feel free to cross post my note if you feel it
would be appropriate.The intended meaning of affiliation
was interaction with enjoyable people,for no other purpose
than having close friendly relations.I should add that
the intended meaning of achievement is competing against
your own past performance and desiring to better it.The
intended meaning of power is to influence and manage.
George D.
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| 791.3 | more ramblings on this subject | ATPS::FODEN | Tue Apr 12 1988 18:29 | 25 | |
From similiar classes I have learned about power and women. If
we define power as influence, then women have historically had the
most powerful (influencial) jobs in our society. For example most of the
women's jobs/roles such as mother, teacher, nurse, and social worker
are fields where practitioners have a lot of influence over others.
As a woman I have always thought that power was something 'bad',
something to avoid at all costs. However, women are very powerful
people and power is not bad and neither is being powerful.
I took a great DEC sponsored course called Management Directives
for Women that covered this material very well. They guided us
in learning what motivates us and to see if there was a good fit
between our motivation needs and those provided by our current jobs.
If there is not a good fit, that might be the reason for lack of
productivity, happiness etc on our parts. Knowing this, allows
us some choices for remedying the situation. For example if we
are high in achievment motivation and our job lacks that, we
could take find another job, or take up a hobby that fills our
achievement needs. It is unreasonable to expect a job to always
be a perfect fit all the time, but knowing our needs permits
us to fill them in a variety of ways.
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