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Conference turris::womannotes-v1

Title:ARCHIVE-- Topics of Interest to Women, Volume 1 --ARCHIVE
Notice:V1 is closed. TURRIS::WOMANNOTES-V5 is open.
Moderator:REGENT::BROOMHEAD
Created:Thu Jan 30 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 30 1995
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:873
Total number of notes:22329

719.0. "Infertility Support Group" by REGENT::WORKMAN () Wed Feb 10 1988 12:58

There seems to be a number of people participating in this conference who are
having infertility problems, and are currently undergoing treatment.  Would any
of you be interested in forming a support group?  This would be for both men
and women since it is a "couples" problem.  No matter whom has the physical
problem (if one can be found) both people are affected emotionally.

I believe most people would prefer not to discuss their experiences in an open
conference such as this, but perhaps we could use another method such as mail.

Any suggestions can be placed in this note or send mail to:
REGENT::WORKMAN


Marjean


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719.1I for one am interested...FENNEL::SLACKFri Feb 19 1988 07:4016
    Great topic.  I know many women who are finding it difficult to
    conceive...this problem affects the extended family as well. By
    extended I'm referring to the in-laws, cousins, aunts, uncles, those
    relatives who are not of the immediate family.
    
    Also, perhaps this support group could begin looking into the causes
    for the increases in miscarriages.  "All" of the women in my immediate
    family have had at least one miscarriage, and we were all raised
    in a "healthy, organic farming" environment.
    
    Also, all of the women in my family are finding it increasingly
    difficult to bear children....
    
    This is a very good opportunity for us to look at the role of science
    and technology and it's impact on birthing....
    
719.2TLE::BRETTFri Feb 26 1988 22:0174
    
    My wife and I experienced two miscarriages before successfully having
    our two girls, our third is on the way and is passed the main danger
    period.  The first was quite rough - we had been putting off having
    children until we thought we were financially and emotionally stable
    enough as a couple, and then tried  time the kid into the 12 month
    "warning" that we had that we were moving to the USA.  Joy's Natural
    Family Planning training meant she had little trouble in getting
    pregnant (like the 2nd month we were trying) but then about two
    or three months later - miscarriage, including hospitalisation for
    the d&c.  I was surprised by find myself over the next few days
    looking at the wall and wondering what the kid would have been like.
    
    We found out then that a lot of couples go thru the same experience,
    about 1 out of every 5 conceptions result in a miscarriage, although
    half of those are so early that the woman perceives a "late period"
    rather than recognising it as miscarriage.  This means that about
    1 out of every 10 conceptions is a recognised miscarriage!  A LOT
    higher than you might expect - but people simply don't talk about
    them unless you do...  We even found out that both our mothers had
    had miscarriages!
    
    The second one didn't do much to our minds except make us slightly
    annoyed and also prompt Joy to have some hormone level tests.  The
    Doctor (Rebecca Green - she was working for Matthew Thorton then)
    suggested a drug (clomide i think, but I'm not sure) and Joy was
    on that when Angela was conceived.  For Michelle, though, she was
    not on anything and that one went smoothly also.  Same with this
    third.
    
    General "advice" now - miscarriages are best viewed as "likely",
    but after two in a row it might be worth having a few tests...
    Two in a row doesn't mean you won't have healthy normal kids -
    both Angela and Michelle are well spoken, energetic, good looking,
    etc. (but then, I'm their daddy so who am I to judge?).
    
    Joy worked in a fertility clinic (as a nurse) for a while after
    completing her midwifery.  She also trained as a Natural Family
    Planning instructor and we found out a lot more about the female
    reproductive cycle through the later than the former!  Any couple
    which are having difficulties getting pregnant should consider going
    along to qn NFP instructor and having a chat.
    
    For instance - NFP centres around recognising, by the woman being
    aware of her own body, when she is fertile.  There is a whole range
    of different signs/symptoms that different women find good indicators.
    Once you know when you fertile - time for intercourse...  A bad
    approach though is to spend the entire 3 days seeing how many orgasms
    the husband can have - better approach is for the husband to build
    up a nice high dosage over the week before and aim for one good
    shot at just the right time...
    
    We know of several couples who conceived within a few months of
    giving up trying - and it is not uncommon for "infertile" couples
    to get pregnant shortly after adopting a child!  One of the deliberate
    strategies of the Fertility clinic was to only actively work with
    the couple for a while, then tell them to "have some time off, we'll
    try again in a year's time" and that decrease in the pressure was
    sometimes enough...
    
    Notice I said "couples" - it is sometimes a problem with the man,
    sometimes with the woman, and sometimes an interaction between
    them (he has low sperm count, she is borderline - but if either
    of them had been closer to average pregnancy would have been
    achieved without any noticeable difficulty).
    
    Lastly, there was a trend in Australia, and maybe here also, to
    think of couples as "child-free" rather than "child-less".  All
    clouds have silver linings - yours maybe that you needn't worry
    about contraception! (and, of course, if something happens...).
    
    It is a good topic - one Joy and I could talk about for hours...
    
    /Bevin
719.3Seeking Advice for Premature Menopausal InfertilityGENRAL::SLEWISSharon LewisWed Mar 30 1988 01:2212
    I have been trying to get pregnant for two and a half years now, but
    haven't had any success.  Clomid was perscribed for a few months
    but when my blood test indicated extrememly high FSH levels, my
    doctor diagnosed premature menopause and told me there was no hope.
    I was 31 years old when it was diagnosed (one year ago).
    
    Menopause takes 3 to 5 years.  Many woman become pregnant during
    menopause, so I still have faith that I can conceive.  I want to
    optimize my chances.  If anyone has any advise they are willing
    to share, please respond to this note or send me mail.

    -sharon