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Conference turris::womannotes-v1

Title:ARCHIVE-- Topics of Interest to Women, Volume 1 --ARCHIVE
Notice:V1 is closed. TURRIS::WOMANNOTES-V5 is open.
Moderator:REGENT::BROOMHEAD
Created:Thu Jan 30 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 30 1995
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:873
Total number of notes:22329

676.0. "Birth Control Fantasies" by GCANYN::TATISTCHEFF (Lee T) Tue Jan 26 1988 16:59

    This topic is for fantasy, women's and men's, though I must apologize
    to our gay members who may feel excluded from this Topic.
    
    The subect is Birth Control.  Not what you wish the _other_ gender
    could do, but what you wish _you_ could do to prevent unwanted
    pregnancies. 
    
    Ex: I wish I had a little switch embedded, say, under a flap of
    skin behind my elbow.  When I decided to conceive, I would visit
    a doctor who would open it up, turn the switch into "conceive
    position", close it up (maybe snap it closed), and off I'd go to
    happily conceive.
    
    While we live in a world of technological limitations and under
    the spectre of AIDS, consider these restrictions magically lifted.
    In this world, there is NO such thing as an STD, and there is NOTHING
    a doctor can't do.
    
    Standard Disclaimer: there are some aspects of this which will hit
    some people's "hot spots".  An example of this is that my fantasy
    involved only _my_ wish to conceive, not my partner's wish.  It
    is patently unfair, I recognize that, and apologize.  If it tickles
    a hot spot, please ignore it or take it to mail, as I intend this
    to be a FUN topic.  
    
    Lee
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676.1well, I couldn't resist this logic....FENNEL::SLACKTue Jan 26 1988 17:3513
    Just in case there is a gay person out there, and if they didn't
    want to be excluded, they might think the following:
                    
    That all pieces to the natural birth control puzzle
    are in place and that most of us are frightened at the possibility
    of its existence.
    
    Just a flick of a little neurological, sociological, biological,
    in any case, logical switch he or she can transform sexual pleasures
    to birthing pleasures.
    
    The means of accessing this natural switch is what prevents most from
    exploring all possibilities. 
676.2p.s.FENNEL::SLACKTue Jan 26 1988 17:362
    p.s. to .1, then again, this is a fantasy, right?
    
676.3sure would be niceOPHION::HAYNESCharles HaynesWed Jan 27 1988 02:0335
    My fantasy runs something along the lines of "Dreamsnake" (by Vonda
    MacIntyre. If you haven't read it yet, by all means do, talk about
    your powerful female role models!)
    
    Anyway, I'd like everyone to be able to control, by an act of will,
    their ability to father/conceive a child. In Dreamsnake, simple, easily
    learned biofeedback techniques allow men to control the temperature of
    their testicles, and therefore their ability to produce viable sperm.
    I'd love to be able to do that. Women too, in the story have the
    ability to control either ovulation or implantation. (But men are
    customarily expected to take care of things...) Imagine, a world where
    EVERY child is concieved deliberately, as an act of will.
    
    Failing that, I'd like a safe, reliable, convenient male contraceptive.
    Say a little pill I could take every day, or an injection I could
    get that would make me infertile for a month, or six.
    
    I'd like to see more funding into safe and effective forms of
    contraceptives for BOTH sexes. I'd like to see what information
    we DO have on contraception available to EVERYONE.
    
    I guess the bottom line is, my fanatsy is: no unwanted children.
    
    Oops, this is supposed to be *fun*. Ok, how about this, I wish that
    when two people had sex, it was random which one of them might get
    pregnant!
    
    How about a world where, at puberty, everyone had their fertility
    surpressed. Then, when you wanted to concieve, you went and mixed
    up an egg and a sperm (one from each partner, doesn't matter which
    comes from where, genetic engineering dontcha know) and one of you
    carried it to term. Something about this scene bothers me... I can't
    put my finger on it though.
    
    	-- Charles
676.4what a conceptVIA::RANDALLThu Jan 28 1988 09:4011
    My ideal would be 'birth control', not 'conception control'.  I
    don't mind being pregnant and I love babies (mine, that is, not
    yours!)  What I can't hack is the giving birth part.  
    
    Now if I just had a zipper up my tummy, so that when the baby had
    reached a good size and was all ready to come, I could just unzip
    it, lift the kid out, and zip it back up . . . no blood, no episotomy
    (bet I spelled that wrong!), no wincing every time you use the bathroom
    for the next six weeks . . .
    
    --bonnie
676.5That's what the little girl said...SSDEVO::YOUNGERCalm down, it's only 1's and 0'sThu Jan 28 1988 10:4416
    Re .4
    
    I overheard some children playing awhile back.  One of their mothers
    was pregnant.  One of the other children asked "How does it get
    out?"  Another one (obviously an expert :^) told her that they go
    to the hospital, the doctor opens her belly, takes the baby out,
    zips it back up, and they all go home.  Too bad she was wrong...
    :^)
    
    My utopian world would be one where men and woman had an equal chance
    of becomming pregnant.  I suspect that would solve most, if not
    all, of the equality issues (perhaps abortion would be a sacrement
    if men could get pregnant?).
    
    Elizabeth
    
676.6Not exactly a birth control fantasy, but a related dream...28713::CONLONThu Jan 28 1988 10:5817
    	When I was pregnant with Ryan, I used to have dreams during
    	the night that I could take him out of my belly and play with
    	him for awhile (then put him back inside for the rest of the
    	day to grow some more.)
    
    	What must have been happening was that he woke up and found
    	all sorts of room (since I was lying stretched out on my side
    	while sleeping), so he made good use of the room and moved more
    	than usual ... causing me to dream about little baby body parts
    	trying to get out of my stomach.
    
    	My dreams were vivid enough to imagine having his entire person
    	on my lap (with the cord still going into my stomach), but I
    	never once dreamed that I looked to see what sex he was.  
    
    	I would hold him on my lap, then put him back in my stomach when
    	we were finished.