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Conference turris::womannotes-v1

Title:ARCHIVE-- Topics of Interest to Women, Volume 1 --ARCHIVE
Notice:V1 is closed. TURRIS::WOMANNOTES-V5 is open.
Moderator:REGENT::BROOMHEAD
Created:Thu Jan 30 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 30 1995
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:873
Total number of notes:22329

662.0. "Facing the future alone: how do you cope?" by VIKING::TARBET () Thu Jan 21 1988 11:28

    The following is from a member of our community who wishes to remain
    anonymous at this time.  
    
    						=maggie
    
    (I was quite sure we already had a string going on this topic, but
    to save my soul I couldn't find it.)
    
    ===================================================================
         
    I'd like to hear from women in the conference who have been alone for
    some time and get some suggestions on how they learned to cope.  I have
    been living on my own with my young son for a year now but lately find
    myself feeling very lonely and facing the possibility that I may be
    alone for several years, maybe forever.  In thinking about things this
    weekend I realized that I am probably having a delayed reaction since
    this is the first time in my 38 years that I have been without a man in
    my life.  I've dated a lot since my divorce and have always had at
    least one man in the picture ever since.  I recognize a pattern that
    developed...when I am dating someone I feel on top of the world and
    when I am not I feel miserable.  Why is it that when I am involved with
    a man I totally enjoy being by myself on the nights/weekends that I
    don't see that person and when there is no one in my life I hate
    spending time alone?  In between relationships my ex-husband was always
    there to lean on and we even tried for awhile to make our relationship
    work again without success.  Now I am really alone for the first time. 

    At the moment most of my male/female friends are involved in long term
    relationships so I can't rely on them for companionship.  After much
    practise I've learned to get myself out and do things for myself like
    go skiing or to a movie but I find that I don't enjoy doing things by
    myself. I also try to get out and do things with my son but I miss
    being a family unit and always feel like someone is missing.  Generally
    I feel good about myself but lately I can't seem to shake the
    "lonelies", particularly when my child is not around. Have other women
    experienced similar feelings of "why do I feel like I'm nothing without
    a man?" (a feeling that I'm not proud of). I'd like to get to the point
    where I feel totally comfortable being by myself/with my child without
    being involved with a person of the opposite sex. I know there are a
    lot of single women who are perfectly content to be by themselves...how
    did they get to that point?  What do you do with your time when the
    children are with their fathers?  If the men who read this conference
    have felt this way (feeling lost without a woman in their life) and
    have resolved it, I'd like to hear from them also. 


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662.1LIONEL::SAISIaThu Jan 21 1988 12:089
    	This does not address the larger issue of how to accept
    	living alone, but outdoors clubs are great for doing 
    	things with other people.  Like AMC.  They usually have
    	weekend trips too, which are not expensive, and you
    	could go on one of these when your son is away.  If you
    	like folk dancing, there is alot of that going on in
    	this area.  There is a *big* contra dance at the Concord
    	Scout House every Monday night.  Most people trade partners
    	on each dance, and dance with people they don't know.
662.2one way toELESYS::JASNIEWSKIThu Jan 21 1988 13:5133
                                                              
    	Hmmmm, yes, there is a possibility of being "forever alone"
    but in the same realm (that of possibility) there is also one of
    being "forever accompanied" - depends how you look at it. You seem
    to be encouraging the "alone" possibility - as if there's some
    necessarily associative certainty to it - why?
    	I find the exact same thing happens to me, concerning how I
    feel to be alone with respect to being in a relationship. Perhaps
    it's a question of balance; when we're without a companion, we feel
    out_of_balance - "somethings missing". Especially for you, where
    having a close companion has been the normal life_state for a time;
    probably more so than me. 
    	You find that "doing things" for yourself isnt very much fun,
    cause you're alone. But maybe that's not the reason. The things
    you gave as example were of the *entertainment* sort - something
    you might even do on a date, or, with someone. Is this time spent
    that is "goal achieving" - with your goals in mind? Nope. You may
    feel less lonely using this time to do that. It's just a thought.
    	Thinking totaly positively, you have quite the opportunity now
    in your life. You have all this time to do *nearly* anything you'd
    like! Maybe you've always wanted to own your own business. Or, perhaps
    you always wanted to learn a musical instrument, but "never had
    the time". Maybe you have wanted to try your hand at playacting,
    and, there happens to be a small theatre group in town that needs
    someone for a part - right now. You may even find some profound
    truths in something you picked out and then the world will come along
    with it's myths and reasons as to why it wont work. Ah, now you have
    something all the more to work for, bit by bit, to show the world, but 
    more importantly, yourself - that the truth you initially felt was real!
    	I suspect that...those who have learned to "cope"...are doing
    something like what I've described above.
    
    	Joe Jas (getting carried away)
662.3SPIDER::PAREWhat a long, strange trip its beenThu Jan 21 1988 15:4760
    I've been divorced since 1977 and have lived alone with my two sons
    until this summer when I fell madly in love once again... and so
    now I'm making a completely different adjustment... getting used
    to being part of a couple again... and this is something that I
    truly never thought would happen.
    
    I come from a family of women who (for one reason or another) live
    alone.  I believe that time alone is a gift from God.  It's very
    difficult, and its the measure of a woman.  
    
    When finally confronted with one's "aloneness", one is faced with
    the full realization of who and what one is, where one is going,
    and what one's priorities and values really are.  When you are alone
    you have no one to bail you out, to "rescue" you, to come up with the
    extra rent money, to console you, to comfort you.  You discover
    that there is really very little that can distroy you.  You become
    strong.  You must fight like a man and react like a man if you have
    sons and they are threatened because children must have the security
    of a strong parent and a son learns to be strong, to be assertive
    by watching how his mother handles the many crises that arise in
    their lives.  If you are (like me) a shy person by nature, this
    is a difficult lesson.
    
    When I got divorced, women and children didn't get much support
    financially or otherwise in the courts .... so you learned to be
    grateful for small things and to appreciate "getting by".... a 
    social life wasn't as serious a problem as food and rent.  You 
    also knew that if your children were to have a future, you must
    find a way to provide what they needed educationally and otherwise.
    
    Gradually I developed strong interests of my own... not the usual
    "busy work" that people often suggest, but as the boys grew up and
    I had more time, all of those areas that facinated me in the past
    drew me.  I audited courses for fun, practiced different forms of
    hypnosis and meditation, devoured books.  I had (and have) wonderful
    pets who were company and protection and always ready for a walk.

    I really got to know myself, my strengths and my weaknesses, what
    I believed in, what I'd take a stand for... I gradually got to accept
    myself for who and what I was.  I had just about accepted the fact
    that I'd be alone until I died and I was content and really rather
    happy.
    
    Then I met Dave and he immediately saw beyond the extra pounds and
    the old habits and he loved me.  It had been so long that
    I'd forgotten how to play games and how to put up defenses and now
    I was used to saying what I felt and doing what I wanted and I was
    no longer afraid to take a chance or a risk...  there was nothing
    to lose and much to gain by including him in my life.
    Now we are living together and we are planning to get married and I've 
    never been happier.  Don't you just love happy endings?_:-)  

    Take the time to learn to know yourself and to love yourself,... then 
    if no one else ever does ... it won't really matter.  Take care of 
    yourself, you are all you son has to pattern his life after.  Enjoying
    your time with yourself.... you're in very good company_:-)

    Mary
    
662.4another casualty...LEZAH::BOBBITTDo I *look* like a Corporate Tool?Thu Jan 21 1988 16:2730
    I made a remark somewhere in some note about feeling kind of like
    men were like trapezes...once I let go of one (or they let go of
    me) I would be petrified of that empty, unsupported, flying feeling
    and search desperately to grab on to the next one.  I don't think
    there's ever a net below, unless one has a very strong sense of
    self.  
    
    When I am "attached" to someone, as has been the case for most of
    the past 6 years, I feel my life has a focus, a central point, and
    that dreaming and planning the future is a great thing to do.  Time
    spent alone is fine, and will be followed at some point by a great
    sharing time between myself and my boyfriend.  I look forward to
    this sharing, to feeling "whole" with another person in my life.
     But it has become a problem, because now I feel "unwhole" when
    I consider what might happen were things to fall apart.  I would
    be a foundering ship without an anchor, and with no beacon to guide
    me.  I am facing a difficult possibility at this point that maybe
    it's *not* working this time...as he reassesses whether or not he
    wants a relationship with a "capital R".  So now I seek to strengthen
    my inner self, and to learn to like me just as I am - unvarnished
    and unaccompanied by someone else.  Time sometimes hangs over me
    like a vulture, taking forever to pass a single evening alone.  I am 
    going to take up hobbies, take some courses, form bonds with new
    friends...but I must do something now, whatever the outcome of the
    Relationship.  It is time to stand on my own two feet.  And the
    feeling that follows that statement is a tight feeling of worry
    and fear, and a relieved feeling of "finally...".
    
    -Jody
     
662.6been there too...CYRUS::DRISKELLThu Jan 21 1988 23:5642
    I also have been there, feeling totally alone, no friends, etc.
    (only I didn't even have a child).  Often I would find that the
    only time I talked to another person was at work.  Often I would
    go out to the store for food on the weekends just so I could talk
    to someone,  anyone.  (I hate to admit it, but this lasted almost
    one year.)
    
    I pulled out of it.  How?  I don't know,  maybe I just got tired
    of being alone.  I started allowing my friends back into my life,
    (bless them for staying around!), and realized that by _my_ actions,
    I had pushed them away.  There is a philosophy that the ending of
    a relationship, particually a marriage, is like a death.  You go
    through the same 7 stages, of Denial, to Anger, aand finally to
    acceptance, (with many backslides in there). a good book that covers
    this is "death and dying", written in the 70's, I forget the author.
    
    As far as pratical advise, do things slowly, one step at a time.
    Don't expect to have the same active social life you had before.
    By definition, you usually had someone there, either next to you,
    or within a phone call.  I started making plans for myself, always
    scheduling at least 2 activities a month. (simple enough, leaves
    you 28 other days to sit around). And DO it.  whatever it is that
    you like.  (Trip to the beach,  go to a theatre, whatever.)  Yes,
    it's hard.  Especially seeing all the couples everywhere.  But you
    can stay at home alone,  or you can go out alone.  At least one
    is active.  I found that once I started joining life again,  there
    was plenty out there waiting for me.  I found the hardest part was
    being the only non-couple in a coupled group.  But I started assuming
    that if friends had invited me,  that they wanted me, and not
    necessarily 'a couple'.
    
    Accept the fact that you have the right to be lonely, you ARE. 
    And there will probally always be times when you will be.  I think
    that is human nature.  But it is only you who can change it.
    
    I wish you the best of luck.  I know how difficult this is.  And
    if you ever need someone to call and talk to, give me a call...
    Try me at work,  seems like I'm always here!!
    
    Just take the first couple of steps,  It can get better.
    
    Mary
662.7a small suggestion in a sea of good ideasMEWVAX::AUGUSTINEFri Jan 22 1988 19:279
    Hi. A very small point. You mentioned that lots of your friends
    are now involved with other people, and you imply that there's little
    room for a friendship with you. As a member of a couple, I'm delighted
    when my single friends want to go on a "date" with my spouse and
    me. I also set aside time to go out with friends without my partner.
    So please don't assume that members of couples don't want to spend
    time with you!
    
    liz
662.8too much to do3D::CHABOTRooms 253, '5, '7, and '9Fri Jan 22 1988 22:5137
    The single life is wonderful!  Maybe I'm just too lazy to find people
    to go off and run around at crazy times and do crazy things.  But
    then again, not only do I not have to invite someone or he'd be
    hurt, I have tons more time because I'm not waiting around for that
    someone to be ready or driving thousands of miles to see him.  I'm
    nobody's sole soul support except for me.  And every now and then
    I drag friends off on adventures, or they drag me.  When there's
    no one else in the car, I can sing without embarassment, and it's much
    easier to think things through.  Oh, and the money saved on concert
    season tickets.  
    
    Not to mention the energy saved when that someone doesn't invite
    me to something.  :-)
    
    Of course, I can't say anything useful about being a single mom.
    Mine's kind of isolated too, she works so much and can't keep up
    with scouts, and she's shy.  But, she took up a new
    out-of-the-house activity recently: she does volunteer work at
    a tiger shelter.  She likes cats, she gets to be with other people
    who like cats, and big cats are even more likeable.
    
    Depending upon your son's age, you could take him on outing-club
    outings too.  Also, there are outdoors things that you don't have
    to join--a bird sanctuary or arboretum often sponsors walks or
    lectures, and a lot of those are set up for families.  You're a
    family!  Museums sponsor arts activity things for families too.
    These are places to make new friends too.
    
    Going out to dinner alone is not always a completely unrewarding
    experience, either.  I often like to watch people, but I've also
    had friends meet the woman/man of their dreams slinging sprouts
    or fries behind the counter.
    
    Sometimes I do think, "But I'll have to grow up someday."  That's
    when I realize all I need is to go and cheer me up.  Because learning
    to do things on my own was growing up.  And I like it.  Taking care
    of yourself is exhilarating, even if it may take getting used to.
662.9Fun and a Drag, All at OnceGCANYN::TATISTCHEFFLee TSat Jan 23 1988 12:3930
    Like Jody and Lisa, I was _always_ involved with someone once I
    started "seeing" people.  Going to a school with 5-10 times as many
    men as women (depending on where in the school you were) meant that
    there was _always_ someone around if I wanted.
    
    Even after deciding I _didn't_ want to have a lover, it was very
    hard not to reach out when I was lonely and scared.  And there,
    if a woman reached out for male companionship, she didn't have to
    look hard or wait long for someone willing and eager.
    
    Now I live alone with a fat furball (with sharp claws but a great
    purr) for company.  Sometimes it was hard not to "go hunting". 
    The cat made it much easier -- unwavering devotion.  He doesn't
    get mad when I am testy, I can call him "cutie pie" and "my sweet
    baby" without flipping him out (try that with a _man_!).  He is
    no replacement for human love and I still can get really down
    sometimes, but my cat and my old Pooh bear (Dadushka gave him to
    me when I was 4) fill in most of the gaps and make it possible to
    get down to the real work of figuring out what _I_ (not my parents,
    not my friends, not my lovers, no my coworkers, not the author of
    some self-help book) think is important in this life.
    
    In the long run, it is worth the introspection -- I am the only
    person residing in this skull, and I am the only person I am certain
    to have with me for my WHOLE life.  I had _better_ come to peace
    with myself, whoever the heck I am.
    
    It is tough, tho.
    
    Lee
662.10STOKES::WHARTONThu Feb 04 1988 12:548
    re .0

    I've found that movies with serious undertones are easier to watch
    alone. Usually comedies evoke commentaries and when I see comedies
    alone I miss sharing the laughter. Also I prefer to go alone during
    the day. There aren't as many couples at the 3 pm movies on Saturday
    as there are at the 8 pm show, so I don't feel as though I stick
    out at the mid-afernoon shows. 
662.11excellent writerEDUHCI::WARRENTue Apr 12 1988 17:026
    re .6:
    
    The author of "On Death and Dying" was Elisabeth Kubler Ross.
    
    --Tracy